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UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over:
Finally watched Summerslam & I'm pretty dissapointed with some of the matches. Like the one with Rey Mysterio, I was expecting something way better than that (afterall, this was Mysterio's comeback). Booker T lost in a terrible way, it was like he was "just another" wrestler with no history behind him. Getting disqualified by using a chair at a PPV is just plain miserable & that's what Khali did. As for Cena beating Orton, I don't know, I'm just sick & tired of seeing Cena win every title match he gets. They put the belt on the wrong guy, clearly no one likes him so what's the fucking point at him still being the champion???

daWappla:

--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on August 29, 2007, 10:29:53 AM ---
--- Quote from: daWappla on August 28, 2007, 04:48:12 PM ---I stopped watching wrestling on a regular basis years ago (simply because they don´t show it here and I can´t be bothered to download every show) but I still read all the results etc... So, while I don´t know too much about the performance of younger guys  I don´t have the feeling that I´m missing out on something. I mean, wrestling/sports entertainment is basically dead since WCW went out of business. Without any competition it´s just boring.

I was a WWF mark to the fullest back around 89 to 94 and although a friend of mine was heavily into wrestling in general (WCW, Japan, taping trades and what not) I never got into WCW. It was just 2nd class to me. Then when the NWO started you know that it was the hottest thing going and I was watching Nitro every week. It was a mix of bringing in older WWF guys and the element of surprise. Every week there happened something. You couldn´t afford to miss one single Nitro , I was hooked. That also made WWF work their asses off and, of course, in the long run they won.

Nowadays it´s just shit. I don´t even bother downloading Summerslam now. Think about it, someone said that it´s disappointing that SS was so weak because it´s one of the original 4 PPV´s. It´s not only one of the original four, it used to be the second highest WWF ppv ever and people knew it by the caliber of matches. Rumble and Survior Series were "just" gimmick ppv´s. Now you guys say that this years Summerslam was disappointing and when I look at the results and the reviews it doesn´t make me go look for a download link like it should.

Even though they might be very critical about their product in Stamford, without some major competition it will be very hard to pull themselves out of this mediocracy.

(I guess though, just to really have an opinion, I go and look for a download link :D )

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I agree with most of that.

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What do you not agree with?





--- Quote from: Bangin' West Coast on August 29, 2007, 11:08:00 AM ---Finally watched Summerslam & I'm pretty dissapointed with some of the matches. Like the one with Rey Mysterio, I was expecting something way better than that (afterall, this was Mysterio's comeback). Booker T lost in a terrible way, it was like he was "just another" wrestler with no history behind him. Getting disqualified by using a chair at a PPV is just plain miserable & that's what Khali did. As for Cena beating Orton, I don't know, I'm just sick & tired of seeing Cena win every title match he gets. They put the belt on the wrong guy, clearly no one likes him so what's the fucking point at him still being the champion???

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He sells enough merchandise. Obviously they don´t have any one else at the moment that they could put the title on and the fact that he makes them enough money is reason enough to keep the title on him. I see it that way, kids will always buy his shirts and all that stuff but with putting the title on him they also sell more title replicas. Especially just his spinner title. They know that if he doesn´t have any title to show to the fans that they won´t sell any titles. It´s business in the end and if he makes the company the most money then they won´t change that. I rather have Cena as champ than Orton or Triple H.

Now_Im_Not_Banned:

--- Quote from: daWappla on August 29, 2007, 02:34:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on August 29, 2007, 10:29:53 AM ---
--- Quote from: daWappla on August 28, 2007, 04:48:12 PM ---I stopped watching wrestling on a regular basis years ago (simply because they don´t show it here and I can´t be bothered to download every show) but I still read all the results etc... So, while I don´t know too much about the performance of younger guys  I don´t have the feeling that I´m missing out on something. I mean, wrestling/sports entertainment is basically dead since WCW went out of business. Without any competition it´s just boring.

I was a WWF mark to the fullest back around 89 to 94 and although a friend of mine was heavily into wrestling in general (WCW, Japan, taping trades and what not) I never got into WCW. It was just 2nd class to me. Then when the NWO started you know that it was the hottest thing going and I was watching Nitro every week. It was a mix of bringing in older WWF guys and the element of surprise. Every week there happened something. You couldn´t afford to miss one single Nitro , I was hooked. That also made WWF work their asses off and, of course, in the long run they won.

Nowadays it´s just shit. I don´t even bother downloading Summerslam now. Think about it, someone said that it´s disappointing that SS was so weak because it´s one of the original 4 PPV´s. It´s not only one of the original four, it used to be the second highest WWF ppv ever and people knew it by the caliber of matches. Rumble and Survior Series were "just" gimmick ppv´s. Now you guys say that this years Summerslam was disappointing and when I look at the results and the reviews it doesn´t make me go look for a download link like it should.

Even though they might be very critical about their product in Stamford, without some major competition it will be very hard to pull themselves out of this mediocracy.

(I guess though, just to really have an opinion, I go and look for a download link :D )

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I agree with most of that.

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What do you not agree with?


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Well, I personally never watched WCW regularly and stopped watching WWF by choice, not because they stopped airing it.

daWappla:
I never watched WCW before the whole NWO/Monday Night Wars era either but once I did and permanent internet access came around I checked some earlier stuff and boy was it worth it. WCW was always trying to be the "not so sports entertainment oriented" alternative to the WWF but in the end they delivered some of the most stupid stuff ever. From the Shockmaster debut to the white castle of fear videos to their stupid gimmicks. Sure the WWF also had very VERY lame gimmicks but they had success with it. Watching some of WCW´s crap just makes you wonder and laugh at the same time. I love it.

AlerG:

--- Quote from: daWappla on August 29, 2007, 02:34:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on August 29, 2007, 10:29:53 AM ---
--- Quote from: daWappla on August 28, 2007, 04:48:12 PM ---I stopped watching wrestling on a regular basis years ago (simply because they don´t show it here and I can´t be bothered to download every show) but I still read all the results etc... So, while I don´t know too much about the performance of younger guys  I don´t have the feeling that I´m missing out on something. I mean, wrestling/sports entertainment is basically dead since WCW went out of business. Without any competition it´s just boring.

I was a WWF mark to the fullest back around 89 to 94 and although a friend of mine was heavily into wrestling in general (WCW, Japan, taping trades and what not) I never got into WCW. It was just 2nd class to me. Then when the NWO started you know that it was the hottest thing going and I was watching Nitro every week. It was a mix of bringing in older WWF guys and the element of surprise. Every week there happened something. You couldn´t afford to miss one single Nitro , I was hooked. That also made WWF work their asses off and, of course, in the long run they won.

Nowadays it´s just shit. I don´t even bother downloading Summerslam now. Think about it, someone said that it´s disappointing that SS was so weak because it´s one of the original 4 PPV´s. It´s not only one of the original four, it used to be the second highest WWF ppv ever and people knew it by the caliber of matches. Rumble and Survior Series were "just" gimmick ppv´s. Now you guys say that this years Summerslam was disappointing and when I look at the results and the reviews it doesn´t make me go look for a download link like it should.

Even though they might be very critical about their product in Stamford, without some major competition it will be very hard to pull themselves out of this mediocracy.

(I guess though, just to really have an opinion, I go and look for a download link :D )

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I agree with most of that.

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What do you not agree with?





--- Quote from: Bangin' West Coast on August 29, 2007, 11:08:00 AM ---Finally watched Summerslam & I'm pretty dissapointed with some of the matches. Like the one with Rey Mysterio, I was expecting something way better than that (afterall, this was Mysterio's comeback). Booker T lost in a terrible way, it was like he was "just another" wrestler with no history behind him. Getting disqualified by using a chair at a PPV is just plain miserable & that's what Khali did. As for Cena beating Orton, I don't know, I'm just sick & tired of seeing Cena win every title match he gets. They put the belt on the wrong guy, clearly no one likes him so what's the fucking point at him still being the champion???

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He sells enough merchandise. Obviously they don´t have any one else at the moment that they could put the title on and the fact that he makes them enough money is reason enough to keep the title on him. I see it that way, kids will always buy his shirts and all that stuff but with putting the title on him they also sell more title replicas. Especially just his spinner title. They know that if he doesn´t have any title to show to the fans that they won´t sell any titles. It´s business in the end and if he makes the company the most money then they won´t change that. I rather have Cena as champ than Orton or Triple H.

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They were selling those replica belts for $300 at wrestlemania, madd kids had them, i couldn't believe it,

chill

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