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J.D. Wykid, Esq.:

--- Quote from: Young A.G. on January 05, 2010, 01:42:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: J.D. Wykid, Esq. on January 05, 2010, 12:20:12 PM ---so how many segments did hart get?  i watch the opening and closing segments of raw...and they both sucked. 

if thats all that hart did, then i wont even waste my time downloading raw....

--- End quote ---

dont...

im really suprised TNA got my attention so much and im actuall excited to see the next show

--- End quote ---

bret hart is the man, and its cool to see him on tv again, but the hart nostalgia will start to fade quickly....same thing with hogan.  the difference is, tna is a much better overall product and theyre hungry.  if hogan can keep his ego in check and actually do what he said last night (the bit about "doing it right this time") then i can see tna getting better ratings within a couple of years, max. 

M Dogg™:

--- Quote from: J.D. Wykid, Esq. on January 05, 2010, 02:01:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: Young A.G. on January 05, 2010, 01:42:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: J.D. Wykid, Esq. on January 05, 2010, 12:20:12 PM ---so how many segments did hart get?  i watch the opening and closing segments of raw...and they both sucked. 

if thats all that hart did, then i wont even waste my time downloading raw....

--- End quote ---

dont...

im really suprised TNA got my attention so much and im actuall excited to see the next show

--- End quote ---

bret hart is the man, and its cool to see him on tv again, but the hart nostalgia will start to fade quickly....same thing with hogan.  the difference is, tna is a much better overall product and theyre hungry.  if hogan can keep his ego in check and actually do what he said last night (the bit about "doing it right this time") then i can see tna getting better ratings within a couple of years, max. 



--- End quote ---

TNA has the better product, really? Seriously, I rarely change the channel on a Kurt Angle match, but Kofi and Orton put on a great match, doing that old nWo stuff did nothing for me, as seeing a blotted Scott Hall and grey Kevin Nash didn't scream "watch this" and seeing Val Venus, Jeff Jarrett and the Nasty Boys didn't do anything for me. Okay, the Beautiful People playing strip poker, that did something to me... lol. About the only thing worth watching was Samoa Joe and AJ vs. Angle.

WWE did have Bret Hart, which seeing him with Shawn Michaels was a bit predictable but it really moved me. Like the Beautiful People, a Maryse match is always welcomed on my TV, and the US #1 contender match was also pretty cool. Now DX vs. JeriShow was a waste of time, and a good point to change the channel, but the cool thing of having two wrestling shows, you can change the channel.

J.D. Wykid, Esq.:
yes, im my opinion tna shits all over wwe....and tna is about to get the squirts!! 

M Dogg™:

--- Quote from: J.D. Wykid, Esq. on January 05, 2010, 03:51:22 PM ---yes, im my opinion tna shits all over wwe....and tna is about to get the squirts!! 

--- End quote ---

 :o

http://www.youtube.com/v/yU4QrBNcP70&hl=en_US&fs=1&

Shallow:

--- Quote from: M Dogg on January 05, 2010, 03:44:52 PM ---
--- Quote from: J.D. Wykid, Esq. on January 05, 2010, 02:01:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: Young A.G. on January 05, 2010, 01:42:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: J.D. Wykid, Esq. on January 05, 2010, 12:20:12 PM ---so how many segments did hart get?  i watch the opening and closing segments of raw...and they both sucked. 

if thats all that hart did, then i wont even waste my time downloading raw....

--- End quote ---

dont...

im really suprised TNA got my attention so much and im actuall excited to see the next show

--- End quote ---

bret hart is the man, and its cool to see him on tv again, but the hart nostalgia will start to fade quickly....same thing with hogan.  the difference is, tna is a much better overall product and theyre hungry.  if hogan can keep his ego in check and actually do what he said last night (the bit about "doing it right this time") then i can see tna getting better ratings within a couple of years, max. 



--- End quote ---

TNA has the better product, really? Seriously, I rarely change the channel on a Kurt Angle match, but Kofi and Orton put on a great match, doing that old nWo stuff did nothing for me, as seeing a blotted Scott Hall and grey Kevin Nash didn't scream "watch this" and seeing Val Venus, Jeff Jarrett and the Nasty Boys didn't do anything for me. Okay, the Beautiful People playing strip poker, that did something to me... lol. About the only thing worth watching was Samoa Joe and AJ vs. Angle.

WWE did have Bret Hart, which seeing him with Shawn Michaels was a bit predictable but it really moved me. Like the Beautiful People, a Maryse match is always welcomed on my TV, and the US #1 contender match was also pretty cool. Now DX vs. JeriShow was a waste of time, and a good point to change the channel, but the cool thing of having two wrestling shows, you can change the channel.

--- End quote ---


I didn't see Orton vs Kofi so I can't say how good or bad it was. But I can say it was not at all better than AJ/Angle and there is only one reason for that. I didn't care about Orton vs Kofi. I did care about Angle vs AJ. And that is what matters most in a wrestling match. If the worst technical match in history can draw you in and make you care about who wins and how they win, it beats the best technical match where who wins doesn't matter. I had no clue about either feud and no reason to like one over the other, but Angle vs AJ mattered to me.

That is what I hope TNA is trying to do this time; make people care about who wins and loses. I know WWE gave up on that years ago and that's why I can't watch anymore. Booking Pro wrestling is the simplest thing in the world. You create a championship and you make winning that championship mean more than anything else. So every feud with your champion is about not losing the belt and winning the belt, and every other feud is about getting closer to getting a chance to win that belt. The second a wrestler says he'll put his quest for the title on hold to take care of unfinished business is the second the company loses itself.

Wrestling is an imitation of sport. You'd never hear a team say they'll opt out of the playoffs for a chance to beat a team they have a grudge with. The championship comes first. If you can win a rivalry on the way their, great. If not, then you keep your eyes on the prize and worry about the rivalry later. I'm not saying TNA is doing this now, or will, but I hope Hogan uses this approach to build his product over the next two years. because if he does, it will pay off. I guarantee it. With the WWE I'm positive Stephanie and friends do not care about that approach and that is why I don't watch.

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