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Mo Z. Dizzle:
--- Quote from: Shallow on January 17, 2010, 08:09:36 PM ---Not sure how Styles will do as a heel, or how much heel heat Ric Flair can get anymore (people love him too much), but I'll still be watching to see the Nature Boy on the mic.
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he was a heel before, I didn't think it suited him because his gimmick was shitty at the time.
I think it'll be better this time around.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Mo Z. Dizzle on January 17, 2010, 08:17:29 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on January 17, 2010, 08:09:36 PM ---Not sure how Styles will do as a heel, or how much heel heat Ric Flair can get anymore (people love him too much), but I'll still be watching to see the Nature Boy on the mic.
--- End quote ---
he was a heel before, I didn't think it suited him because his gimmick was shitty at the time.
I think it'll be better this time around.
--- End quote ---
I think it could make for good TV, but for money I don't see how you can get heat as a heel with Flair in your corner. Maybe they'll pull it off but I question whether they can get the crowd behind Angle and against Styles with Flair. I think it would have been easier if Angle was the heel and Flair and Styles the faces.
The story in my head would be Flair comes in as Angle's manager, even brings his younger son with him who was a great amateur in high school. Flair helps Angle beat Styles in a loser leaves he company match, and Angle is champ and Styles is gone. A few months down the line Angle turns on Flair for almost costing him a match. He attacks Ric in the ring and even beats down on Reid making Ric watch as Angle goes to break the kid's ankle with some modified ankle lock. Styles runs in from the crowd and saves them both. Flair grateful to Styles vows to get him back into TNA, succeeds and tells him to beat Angle he'll have to learn to fight dirty and recognize a dirty fighter the caliber of Angle. So Flair trains him, (of course the Monday Impact victory over Angle should not have happened for this to work, but since it's all fantasy booking who cares). This all leads to whatever TNA's main PPV is where Angle loses to Styles, not because Styles fights dirty but because all the training he did with Flair made him a great wrestler against a dirty player. That would be the story of the match anyway. In the end Angle loses because Styles takes advantage of the fact Angle will do anything to get the upper hand. So something along the lines of a chair or something being in the ring and Styles acting like he's attempting to grab it but Angle goes for it first, Styles knowing this fakes going after it and instead lets Angle reach for it only for Styles to olympic slam Angle right on the chair for the win, and the title, and the first victory over Angle. So Styles wins the belt by using Angle's game against him, symbolized even further by using Angle's move to win the match, but never sinking to Angle's level to do it.
That's what I would have liked to see anyway.
Sikotic™:
--- Quote from: Shallow on January 17, 2010, 09:01:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: Mo Z. Dizzle on January 17, 2010, 08:17:29 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on January 17, 2010, 08:09:36 PM ---Not sure how Styles will do as a heel, or how much heel heat Ric Flair can get anymore (people love him too much), but I'll still be watching to see the Nature Boy on the mic.
--- End quote ---
he was a heel before, I didn't think it suited him because his gimmick was shitty at the time.
I think it'll be better this time around.
--- End quote ---
I think it could make for good TV, but for money I don't see how you can get heat as a heel with Flair in your corner. Maybe they'll pull it off but I question whether they can get the crowd behind Angle and against Styles with Flair. I think it would have been easier if Angle was the heel and Flair and Styles the faces.
The story in my head would be Flair comes in as Angle's manager, even brings his younger son with him who was a great amateur in high school. Flair helps Angle beat Styles in a loser leaves he company match, and Angle is champ and Styles is gone. A few months down the line Angle turns on Flair for almost costing him a match. He attacks Ric in the ring and even beats down on Reid making Ric watch as Angle goes to break the kid's ankle with some modified ankle lock. Styles runs in from the crowd and saves them both. Flair grateful to Styles vows to get him back into TNA, succeeds and tells him to beat Angle he'll have to learn to fight dirty and recognize a dirty fighter the caliber of Angle. So Flair trains him, (of course the Monday Impact victory over Angle should not have happened for this to work, but since it's all fantasy booking who cares). This all leads to whatever TNA's main PPV is where Angle loses to Styles, not because Styles fights dirty but because all the training he did with Flair made him a great wrestler against a dirty player. That would be the story of the match anyway. In the end Angle loses because Styles takes advantage of the fact Angle will do anything to get the upper hand. So something along the lines of a chair or something being in the ring and Styles acting like he's attempting to grab it but Angle goes for it first, Styles knowing this fakes going after it and instead lets Angle reach for it only for Styles to olympic slam Angle right on the chair for the win, and the title, and the first victory over Angle. So Styles wins the belt by using Angle's game against him, symbolized even further by using Angle's move to win the match, but never sinking to Angle's level to do it.
That's what I would have liked to see anyway.
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I wish the writers and promotors could book something like that, but that seems too complex for most of the writers in rasslin'......actually though, it is something that Bischoff would do. When Bischoff was in charge of WCW, he did a great job building feuds like the Sting vs. Hogan feud for months and even years. His only problem was that the payoff never turned out in a rewarding manner for the fans.
J.D. Wykid, Esq.:
the most activity this thread has seen in a minute and i cant even read any of it cause i havent seen genesis. lol :(
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Sikotic on January 17, 2010, 10:22:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on January 17, 2010, 09:01:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: Mo Z. Dizzle on January 17, 2010, 08:17:29 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on January 17, 2010, 08:09:36 PM ---Not sure how Styles will do as a heel, or how much heel heat Ric Flair can get anymore (people love him too much), but I'll still be watching to see the Nature Boy on the mic.
--- End quote ---
he was a heel before, I didn't think it suited him because his gimmick was shitty at the time.
I think it'll be better this time around.
--- End quote ---
I think it could make for good TV, but for money I don't see how you can get heat as a heel with Flair in your corner. Maybe they'll pull it off but I question whether they can get the crowd behind Angle and against Styles with Flair. I think it would have been easier if Angle was the heel and Flair and Styles the faces.
The story in my head would be Flair comes in as Angle's manager, even brings his younger son with him who was a great amateur in high school. Flair helps Angle beat Styles in a loser leaves he company match, and Angle is champ and Styles is gone. A few months down the line Angle turns on Flair for almost costing him a match. He attacks Ric in the ring and even beats down on Reid making Ric watch as Angle goes to break the kid's ankle with some modified ankle lock. Styles runs in from the crowd and saves them both. Flair grateful to Styles vows to get him back into TNA, succeeds and tells him to beat Angle he'll have to learn to fight dirty and recognize a dirty fighter the caliber of Angle. So Flair trains him, (of course the Monday Impact victory over Angle should not have happened for this to work, but since it's all fantasy booking who cares). This all leads to whatever TNA's main PPV is where Angle loses to Styles, not because Styles fights dirty but because all the training he did with Flair made him a great wrestler against a dirty player. That would be the story of the match anyway. In the end Angle loses because Styles takes advantage of the fact Angle will do anything to get the upper hand. So something along the lines of a chair or something being in the ring and Styles acting like he's attempting to grab it but Angle goes for it first, Styles knowing this fakes going after it and instead lets Angle reach for it only for Styles to olympic slam Angle right on the chair for the win, and the title, and the first victory over Angle. So Styles wins the belt by using Angle's game against him, symbolized even further by using Angle's move to win the match, but never sinking to Angle's level to do it.
That's what I would have liked to see anyway.
--- End quote ---
I wish the writers and promotors could book something like that, but that seems too complex for most of the writers in rasslin'......actually though, it is something that Bischoff would do. When Bischoff was in charge of WCW, he did a great job building feuds like the Sting vs. Hogan feud for months and even years. His only problem was that the payoff never turned out in a rewarding manner for the fans.
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I thought of it as I was typing my first paragraph. I'm not that smart. If I can think of it out of nowhere, so can any booker at TNA. The problem is choosing to dedicate that much time and effort into building Styles and Angle. It's all politics.
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