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O.G A.Geesta'z:
i saw the farewell speech but left soon after but i heard the end was crazy
guess ill have to see it tomorrow
Shallow:
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--- Quote from: Shallow on November 22, 2010, 08:26:12 AM ---Has anyone posted the WWE.com list of the 50 best WWE wrestlers of all time?
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I'm waiting for them to come out and say it was a joke.
I think they put Hogan at like #24 or something like that? Not a Hogan fan by any means, but that was easily their biggest name in the 80's.
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Not a fan at all of Hogan's in-ring ability (or lack thereof), but unless in-ring ability is the only thing they're using to gauge this list, Hogan should be higher on the list. At least in the top ten. On the other hand, if they were talking about in-ring ability, Hogan probably shouldn't be on the list at all.
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If it's based on in-ring then Undertaker at #2 would be the biggest joke ever. As far as a complete package of in ring work, draw power, impact on the company, I don't see how anyone can be placed above Steve Austin? He could work a great match, and carry lesser opponents if he had to, he generate more money than anyone, and he was the main guy responsible for turning the company around when they almost went under.
Flair beats Austin in a history of wrestling list, but as far as with regards to WWE and what they did for WWE it has to be Austin.
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That seems reasonable. As far as name recognition, Austin and Hogan would be closely matched. As far as in-ring ability, Austin is obviously way over Hogan in that category. And that's not to say that Austin was an awesome, in-ring technician, but compared to Hogan, he would look like one.
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I beg to differ. I was never the biggest Austin fan as Stonecold, but he was playing his character in the ring. If you think he can't work technical style just watch his match with Arn or Sting from WCW. Dude could go. As Stone Cold he understood how to work the way the character he was playing should work. No one wanted to see the beer drinking anti-establishment rattle snake do flying head butts or moonsaults, or regal stretches, or sharp shooters. Every move Austin did made sense, and it really helped make him a star. The Lou Thesz press isn't half the move the Hurricanrana is, but it got Stone Cold way more over than flip like that would. Just watch all his main event matches against half to decent to poor workers. Every match flows properly, goes a decent amount of time, and tells a story. Steve Austin if never given the Stone Cold character, or allowed to use it whatever, and stayed as an undercard guy, would have been known as the one of the great under rated workers of the decade. Where as Hogan or Taker would have been the Harris Brothers if they had been stuck with gimmicks like that and buried.
Sikotic™:
I remember Austin worked a really great match with Benoit in the early 2000s that was a clinic. Austin did more than his usual maneuvers and of course Benoit did his thing and it was really great. Austin could definitely wrestle his ass off, but his injuries and, like Shallow said, character prevented him from doing otherwise.
UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over:
http://www.youtube.com/v/e6GcrIBhBWA?fs=1&hl=en_US
Sikotic™:
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LOL. That is 2 minutes of jealousy at its finest.
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