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Sikotic™:
When your dad is Ric Flair though, you're bound to live a lil on the wild side too.
Shallow:
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--- Quote from: Sikotic™ on March 29, 2013, 11:18:42 AM ---Damn, Ric Flair's youngest son just died.
I think dude was hooked to heroin and working in Japan. Sad shit.
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the one who used to wrestle on wcw? or was it wwf??
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That's too bad. I saw a bit of his AJPW work. He was decent, tall and the son of Ric Flair. Eventually he would have gotten a shot in the WWE to work an angle.
O.G A.Geesta'z:
so i heard Rock was suppose to get did by Lesnar tonight but he used his injuries as an excuse to no show
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Young Jizz on April 09, 2013, 09:51:32 PM ---so i heard Rock was suppose to get did by Lesnar tonight but he used his injuries as an excuse to no show
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Like it matters. They'll never properly recreate Lesnar as long as they feel like dicking him around for walking out on them.
The problem with the WWE is on one hand they don't want to skyrocket someone from the start because they're worried that it'll go to their heads, like it did with Lesnar, but on the other hand it becomes very hard to create stars in the first place you you beat them up again and again in front of the same fans you want to buy into them in the future.
It was easier in the old territory days to know who was serious, because fans in Memphis or Georgia never really got to see a guy from St Louis Wrestling get beat down in the first stages of his career, so when Ric Flair worked in Minnesota and Japan between 72 and 74 and was a big fat slob that got beat a lot, no fan in Carolina knew what he looked like or how he looked bad at times. They just heard of him by name, his credentials were told them by the announcers and he looked likea force to reckon with right away. He came in and won the TV title off his namesake alone, and the crowd bought it.
The WWE doesn't like to even acknowledge wrestlers existed before they came to the WWE. They change names and histories and want to re-create the character completely. And then they want to make sure the guy is serious about the company by putting him through the ringer. But when the time comes to push the guy fans still remember the guy as a scrub, and while you can overcome it, it still makes it harder and limits how high they can go.
Hogan didn't lose a match between 83 and 90, and they created the single biggest money generator in their company's history. He still would have been a star if they tested him first but no where near as big a star.
O.G A.Geesta'z:
--- Quote from: Shallow on April 13, 2013, 03:09:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: Young Jizz on April 09, 2013, 09:51:32 PM ---so i heard Rock was suppose to get did by Lesnar tonight but he used his injuries as an excuse to no show
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Like it matters. They'll never properly recreate Lesnar as long as they feel like dicking him around for walking out on them.
The problem with the WWE is on one hand they don't want to skyrocket someone from the start because they're worried that it'll go to their heads, like it did with Lesnar, but on the other hand it becomes very hard to create stars in the first place you you beat them up again and again in front of the same fans you want to buy into them in the future.
It was easier in the old territory days to know who was serious, because fans in Memphis or Georgia never really got to see a guy from St Louis Wrestling get beat down in the first stages of his career, so when Ric Flair worked in Minnesota and Japan between 72 and 74 and was a big fat slob that got beat a lot, no fan in Carolina knew what he looked like or how he looked bad at times. They just heard of him by name, his credentials were told them by the announcers and he looked likea force to reckon with right away. He came in and won the TV title off his namesake alone, and the crowd bought it.
The WWE doesn't like to even acknowledge wrestlers existed before they came to the WWE. They change names and histories and want to re-create the character completely. And then they want to make sure the guy is serious about the company by putting him through the ringer. But when the time comes to push the guy fans still remember the guy as a scrub, and while you can overcome it, it still makes it harder and limits how high they can go.
Hogan didn't lose a match between 83 and 90, and they created the single biggest money generator in their company's history. He still would have been a star if they tested him first but no where near as big a star.
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i agree the only person i think the only person they are pushing good right now is Ryback, they started him off as this unstoppable face who got over with the kids, then proved he could lose, and is now giving him a run as a heel against Cena which will get him over with the adult fans, all he has to work on now is his mic skills
then you got people like Ziggler and Ryder
Ziggler should of been champion a long time ago or should of atleast had a lengthy interconinental title rune, but instead they make him job and give him the strap without really ever beating anyone, which makes him hard to be a "credible" champion... but Ziggler has everything going for him from the looks, to mic skills to in ring ability, its just how he holds the strap is whats really gonna make him
then you got Ryder who was the most over new superstar last year and they did shit with him, they make him look like as ass with AJ, they milked his gimmick but never got a real push, if he did he would be a top draw for sure atleast in the US title or Intercontinental title aspect, now for him to really be a credible guy he'd have to drop the stupid gimmick that made him and just be himself kind of like what Stone cold/ Rock did... which will either make him or break him, until then he will always just be another gimmick wrestler
being a fan i guess you just have to accept that things arent like they are back in the golden days and just enjoy it for what it is now
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