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where does suicide bombing fit in to the muslim agenda?

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nibs:

--- Quote from: Dat Nigga Ted aka The 10th Nazgûl on April 18, 2006, 01:31:39 PM ---If you can only do harm to someone prescribed by Allah and Allah dosen't love aggressors then you're saying EVERY person who has ever recieved harm is an aggressor.
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cute, but not quite.  the qu'ran does not suggest that god only allows ill to fall on those he does not love or is angry with; the qu'ran states clearly that life is a test.  muslims & mumins like all else must be subjected to such tests in life, especially in order to demonstrate their faith.  if muslims had it easy than everyone would be a muslim and this would circumvent the purpose of life, which is a test.  suffering is a part of life, and should be accepted as such and not deplored.

now, god would not allow a person to be seriously injured or killed if god had a specific purpose for that person at some later date.  and without question god does not love aggressors; but they too serve a purpose.


--- Quote ---Therefore I can come to your house and beat the living shit out of you. Allah prescribed the harm onto you; that's the only way I could of harm you.
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you could try that, and if you succeeded then god allowed it; and if you fail, for whatever reason, then god prevented it.  either way you would be the aggressor, why would you give god a reason to deny you love?

Teddy Roosevelt:

--- Quote from: Islamic Khalifah Sultan Abdul Hamid- 1908- on April 18, 2006, 01:06:23 PM ---2:154 Do not say of those who are killed in the cause of GOD, "They are dead." They are alive at their Lord, but you do not perceive.

...So you see, a Muslim lives and dies in submission to Allah. 

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You wanna rephrase that sentence. ;)

Teddy Roosevelt:

--- Quote from: nibs on April 18, 2006, 03:15:27 PM ---
--- Quote ---Therefore I can come to your house and beat the living shit out of you. Allah prescribed the harm onto you; that's the only way I could of harm you.
--- End quote ---

you could try that, and if you succeeded then god allowed it; and if you fail, for whatever reason, then god prevented it.  either way you would be the aggressor, why would you give god a reason to deny you love?

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But Allah (or God, since we seem to be using them almost interchangably) prescribed this harm on to the person I beat up (in this hypothetical case, Infinte). So how can I be the aggersor (or how can I be the only aggresor invloved if Allah/God prescribed it).

Kassem:

--- Quote from: Dat Nigga Ted aka The 10th Nazgûl on April 18, 2006, 03:23:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: nibs on April 18, 2006, 03:15:27 PM ---
--- Quote ---Therefore I can come to your house and beat the living shit out of you. Allah prescribed the harm onto you; that's the only way I could of harm you.
--- End quote ---

you could try that, and if you succeeded then god allowed it; and if you fail, for whatever reason, then god prevented it. either way you would be the aggressor, why would you give god a reason to deny you love?

--- End quote ---
But Allah (or God, since we seem to be using them almost interchangably) prescribed this harm on to the person I beat up (in this hypothetical case, Infinte). So how can I be the aggersor (or how can I be the only aggresor invloved if Allah/God prescribed it).

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all u second grade kids. just imagine that u had ur life once before this time ,allah had it videotaped , knows what happens and can edit it if he wants. and know we are living the editing

nibs:

--- Quote from: Dat Nigga Ted aka The 10th Nazgûl on April 18, 2006, 03:23:42 PM ---But Allah (or God, since we seem to be using them almost interchangably)
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they are interchangeable.


--- Quote ---But Allah prescribed this harm on to the person I beat up (in this hypothetical case, Infinte). So how can I be the aggersor (or how can I be the only aggresor invloved if Allah/God prescribed it).
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you chose to be the aggressor.  god allows and directs your aggression.  do you play chess?  it's like a chess board.  you define your rank, god makes the moves.  if you choose to be an aggressor; god will use you when aggression is needed.  if you choose not to be the aggressor, god will use another of his pawns. 

the choice is yours to define (and redefine) your role in life...

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