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May 1st: A Day Without An Immigrant
jeromechickenbone:
--- Quote from: Javy Iz Inactive At the Moment on April 25, 2006, 06:11:30 PM ---
--- Quote from: Jrome The Marauder on April 25, 2006, 06:08:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: Javy Iz Inactive At the Moment on April 25, 2006, 06:00:52 PM ---
--- Quote from: Jrome The Marauder on April 25, 2006, 05:53:09 PM ---Why is this turning into a race issue? Every American on this board stems from immigration, unless you're Native American. So dissing immigration in general is assinine. (Again, unless you're Native American and you have every justification in the world ;D)
I admit I probably need some enlightenment when it comes to this immigration issue, so please shed some light and show some patience here. This is primarily associated with Mexicans, correct? Is the primary issue that it will now be a felony for employers to knowingly employ workers who are illegal? Now there is NO DEBATE about the impact of Mexicans in the work force. There is a meat packing plant north of the town I live in which employs 750 people, 500 of which are Mexican. If they collectively don't show up for work, the place is basically inoperable. So their presence is felt.
But, what is stopping them from becoming legit US citizens? Is it a very difficult process, or is it that they would rather exploit the system? Again, I don't know the answer and am asking honest questions. I don't care if you're Mexican, Italian, Canadian, Cambodian, or Afghan, you should be welcome here. But I think the only catch is that that individual be a legal US citizen.
Now obviously lots of cats in here are living in Cali, and are Mexican. Please shed some light on the plight of your people and this issue.
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A lot of the immigrants have came here illegaly so they can't apply for residency status followed by applying for U.S Citizenship. It's possible but it's a very rare situation. The reason it's primarily associated with Mexicans is because they are the ones that have migrated to the U.S the most, because of the size of the country and it's location. The people debating on the side of immigrants just want to get residency status, so that they won't have a negative supply and demand effect in the work force due to fact that most of them get paid below the minimum wage. It's just another political issue that has really been blown out of proportion since it's an election year, a la gay marriage debate.
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So if a Mexican decides the want to go to the US, and want to do it the correct way, they would apply for residency first, and would then become eligible for citizenship later?
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Yeah they need to apply from Mexico. Unless the government decides to give some immigrants residency status. For example, one of my friends from high school is going to CSULB and he's paying for everything since he's an illegal but his parents brought him here at the age of 2 years old. He speaks perfect english, knows very little spanish, and went to school all his years in the U.S.. Shouldn't he be able to become a citizen? I think he should.
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But isn't it on his parents to have done it the right way, and maybe he would be getting some financial aid / grants / scholarships?
Real American:
--- Quote from: Javy Iz Inactive At the Moment on April 25, 2006, 06:11:30 PM ---
Yeah they need to apply from Mexico. Unless the government decides to give some immigrants residency status. For example, one of my friends from high school is going to CSULB and he's paying for everything since he's an illegal but his parents brought him here at the age of 2 years old. He speaks perfect english, knows very little spanish, and went to school all his years in the U.S.. Shouldn't he be able to become a citizen? I think he should.
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I think he should be deported. Can I have his name and address so I can contact the authorities.
Javier:
--- Quote from: Real American Iz Active on April 25, 2006, 06:24:29 PM ---
--- Quote from: Javy Iz Inactive At the Moment on April 25, 2006, 06:11:30 PM ---
Yeah they need to apply from Mexico. Unless the government decides to give some immigrants residency status. For example, one of my friends from high school is going to CSULB and he's paying for everything since he's an illegal but his parents brought him here at the age of 2 years old. He speaks perfect english, knows very little spanish, and went to school all his years in the U.S.. Shouldn't he be able to become a citizen? I think he should.
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I think he should be deported. Can I have his name and address so I can contact the authorities.
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Can he fuck your sister first? Deport the people that aren't in his position first, these people are just as american as your lil bitch ass without the racism.
Javier:
--- Quote from: Jrome The Marauder on April 25, 2006, 06:15:21 PM ---
--- Quote from: Javy Iz Inactive At the Moment on April 25, 2006, 06:11:30 PM ---
--- Quote from: Jrome The Marauder on April 25, 2006, 06:08:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: Javy Iz Inactive At the Moment on April 25, 2006, 06:00:52 PM ---
--- Quote from: Jrome The Marauder on April 25, 2006, 05:53:09 PM ---Why is this turning into a race issue? Every American on this board stems from immigration, unless you're Native American. So dissing immigration in general is assinine. (Again, unless you're Native American and you have every justification in the world ;D)
I admit I probably need some enlightenment when it comes to this immigration issue, so please shed some light and show some patience here. This is primarily associated with Mexicans, correct? Is the primary issue that it will now be a felony for employers to knowingly employ workers who are illegal? Now there is NO DEBATE about the impact of Mexicans in the work force. There is a meat packing plant north of the town I live in which employs 750 people, 500 of which are Mexican. If they collectively don't show up for work, the place is basically inoperable. So their presence is felt.
But, what is stopping them from becoming legit US citizens? Is it a very difficult process, or is it that they would rather exploit the system? Again, I don't know the answer and am asking honest questions. I don't care if you're Mexican, Italian, Canadian, Cambodian, or Afghan, you should be welcome here. But I think the only catch is that that individual be a legal US citizen.
Now obviously lots of cats in here are living in Cali, and are Mexican. Please shed some light on the plight of your people and this issue.
--- End quote ---
A lot of the immigrants have came here illegaly so they can't apply for residency status followed by applying for U.S Citizenship. It's possible but it's a very rare situation. The reason it's primarily associated with Mexicans is because they are the ones that have migrated to the U.S the most, because of the size of the country and it's location. The people debating on the side of immigrants just want to get residency status, so that they won't have a negative supply and demand effect in the work force due to fact that most of them get paid below the minimum wage. It's just another political issue that has really been blown out of proportion since it's an election year, a la gay marriage debate.
--- End quote ---
So if a Mexican decides the want to go to the US, and want to do it the correct way, they would apply for residency first, and would then become eligible for citizenship later?
--- End quote ---
Yeah they need to apply from Mexico. Unless the government decides to give some immigrants residency status. For example, one of my friends from high school is going to CSULB and he's paying for everything since he's an illegal but his parents brought him here at the age of 2 years old. He speaks perfect english, knows very little spanish, and went to school all his years in the U.S.. Shouldn't he be able to become a citizen? I think he should.
--- End quote ---
But isn't it on his parents to have done it the right way, and maybe he would be getting some financial aid / grants / scholarships?
--- End quote ---
Okay so let's deport him to Mexico where he doesn't know the language and has no family over there.
jeromechickenbone:
--- Quote from: Javy Iz Inactive At the Moment on April 25, 2006, 06:28:14 PM ---
--- Quote from: Jrome The Marauder on April 25, 2006, 06:15:21 PM ---
--- Quote from: Javy Iz Inactive At the Moment on April 25, 2006, 06:11:30 PM ---
--- Quote from: Jrome The Marauder on April 25, 2006, 06:08:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: Javy Iz Inactive At the Moment on April 25, 2006, 06:00:52 PM ---
--- Quote from: Jrome The Marauder on April 25, 2006, 05:53:09 PM ---Why is this turning into a race issue? Every American on this board stems from immigration, unless you're Native American. So dissing immigration in general is assinine. (Again, unless you're Native American and you have every justification in the world ;D)
I admit I probably need some enlightenment when it comes to this immigration issue, so please shed some light and show some patience here. This is primarily associated with Mexicans, correct? Is the primary issue that it will now be a felony for employers to knowingly employ workers who are illegal? Now there is NO DEBATE about the impact of Mexicans in the work force. There is a meat packing plant north of the town I live in which employs 750 people, 500 of which are Mexican. If they collectively don't show up for work, the place is basically inoperable. So their presence is felt.
But, what is stopping them from becoming legit US citizens? Is it a very difficult process, or is it that they would rather exploit the system? Again, I don't know the answer and am asking honest questions. I don't care if you're Mexican, Italian, Canadian, Cambodian, or Afghan, you should be welcome here. But I think the only catch is that that individual be a legal US citizen.
Now obviously lots of cats in here are living in Cali, and are Mexican. Please shed some light on the plight of your people and this issue.
--- End quote ---
A lot of the immigrants have came here illegaly so they can't apply for residency status followed by applying for U.S Citizenship. It's possible but it's a very rare situation. The reason it's primarily associated with Mexicans is because they are the ones that have migrated to the U.S the most, because of the size of the country and it's location. The people debating on the side of immigrants just want to get residency status, so that they won't have a negative supply and demand effect in the work force due to fact that most of them get paid below the minimum wage. It's just another political issue that has really been blown out of proportion since it's an election year, a la gay marriage debate.
--- End quote ---
So if a Mexican decides the want to go to the US, and want to do it the correct way, they would apply for residency first, and would then become eligible for citizenship later?
--- End quote ---
Yeah they need to apply from Mexico. Unless the government decides to give some immigrants residency status. For example, one of my friends from high school is going to CSULB and he's paying for everything since he's an illegal but his parents brought him here at the age of 2 years old. He speaks perfect english, knows very little spanish, and went to school all his years in the U.S.. Shouldn't he be able to become a citizen? I think he should.
--- End quote ---
But isn't it on his parents to have done it the right way, and maybe he would be getting some financial aid / grants / scholarships?
--- End quote ---
Okay so let's deport him to Mexico where he doesn't know the language and has no family over there.
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You're missing the point here. He'd never be in this predicament if his parents would have taken care of business from the get go.
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