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TraceOneInfinite:
Eurocentric historians argue that Europe gave civilization to Africa, which is a complete inversion of the truth.  The first civilized Europeans were the Greeks, who were chiefly civilized by the Africans of the Nile Valley.  The Greeks transmitted this culture to the Romans, who finally lost it, bringing on a dark age of five hundred years.  Civilization was restored to Europe when another group of Africans, the (Islamic) Moors, brought this dark age to an end, meanwhile recivilizing the Christian barbarians of Euurope.  (Muslims ruled Spain from the 9th to the 15th century)

John G. Jackson

Teddy Roosevelt:
One person, one source, therefore an unaccurate topic title. I wouldn't say Africa civialized Europe, but they did teach the greeks a lot of the things they take credit for. Same with the Moors in Spain.

Doggystylin:
lol yeah if you count the egyptians, but even they were influenced by the persians because of the empire, the greeks and romans got their roots from the persian empire which dominated all the way from greece down to egypt all the way across to india, im not even gonna start, i just realized what im getting myself into, a never ending cycle of bullshit, my bad, your right, the africans DID teach europe

TraceOneInfinite:

--- Quote from: Sunset Marley Iz Working On Getting Active on April 26, 2006, 11:37:01 PM ---lol yeah if you count the egyptians, but even they were influenced by the persians because of the empire, the greeks and romans got their roots from the persian empire which dominated all the way from greece down to egypt all the way across to india, im not even gonna start, i just realized what im getting myself into, a never ending cycle of bullshit, my bad, your right, the africans DID teach europe

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Relax man, I'm not going to argue with you over the issue of Persians.  I love Persians.  I was only trying to dispell the myth that white people civilized Africa and at the same time expose people to the fact that Islamic Spain was the vehicle through which Europe rode out of the dark ages.

Wessia4LiaNia Chieee Chieee:
Man I have nuthing against you, I always was impressed by your topics and your dedication to them. But WHAT THE FUCK THAT IS MATTER? Can't you get over that? Can't you at all? Those sad years are over, maybe Africans civilized Europe, so what? that's great, but can't you focuse on other things as "Why doesn't the Europeans(and not only) help the Africans NOW? or Why can't we live along with all races?"  Because there's always someone who's dissapointed about history, trying to make it right NOW, when it doesn't have any reason at all. Is it OUR fault for what happened like 500 years ago? when there was no freedom of speech, no studies for the people, when all the stupid muthaphuckaz ruled the world because they were of "royal blood" ? Chinese helped on this Earth, Africans helped on this Earth, Everyone helped on this Earth in a way or another. Now tell me, for what Hitler did, that means we have to damn the Germans for like...1k years from now on? Man I don't know what your problem is...are you trying to show that Islam is the right religion, yes it is, as much as all the other ones. Are you trying to diss the White? well done, sometimes I hate my sister too, but I can get over it after some time..like...500 years? Then was a whole different world. Sorry for not responding to your topic but I had to get things outta my chest, you trippin for real...I admired your work but damn you outta point, try to focuse more on the future than on past. Let's try work it out as grown men and talk about it, maybe you have arguments, but what's the point? You want the White people to scream that Africans did civilized Europe? Than I think we should all pay tribute to Chinese cause they made most of all the important stuff in this world. If were a smart guy you would've told "Is it the Africans who civilized Europe?" then come with well based arguments for standing your opinion and all that, and maybe all these guys would pay attention to it, be careful with your tone when talking. I still hope you ain't racist... :-\

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