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Who was born on Dec. 25th? I'll give you a hint, it wasn't Jesus....
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Cøp Killlå Ist Nørge! on May 03, 2006, 05:16:31 PM ---All hail Rass Kass holy prophet of the west coast.
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Yeah, Ras Kass rapped the lyrics, but someone who is a true Christian does research into what they believe. I am a Christian, and I was raised Catholic, and I used to question my beliefs all the time. I read up on it, and I now know most of the truth, and I still am a Catholic. Take it for what it is.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: M Dogg on May 03, 2006, 03:40:24 PM ---Actually, Dec. 25 is the birthday of Saturn. That's some real shit, then the Romans celebrated that as the birth of Ceasar, 'cause the Ceasar is suppose to be godlike. Jesus real name is not Jesus, it's Yoshua, and he was more than likely born in April.
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Well his name is Jesus, in English. In Hebrew it's Yoshua. Only the English speaking world calls him Jesus (Jee-zus). It's like saying Alxander The Great's name isn't Alexander, it's Alexanthros or O Megas Alexanthros, and in Spanish it's Alejandro Magno. I don't see the point in telling a Latino or Spaniard that his name isn't really Alejandro Magno, because it is Alejandro Magno, by that translation.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Shallow on May 03, 2006, 09:15:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg on May 03, 2006, 03:40:24 PM ---Actually, Dec. 25 is the birthday of Saturn. That's some real shit, then the Romans celebrated that as the birth of Ceasar, 'cause the Ceasar is suppose to be godlike. Jesus real name is not Jesus, it's Yoshua, and he was more than likely born in April.
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Well his name is Jesus, in English. In Hebrew it's Yoshua. Only the English speaking world calls him Jesus (Jee-zus). It's like saying Alxander The Great's name isn't Alexander, it's Alexanthros or O Megas Alexanthros, and in Spanish it's Alejandro Magno. I don't see the point in telling a Latino or Spaniard that his name isn't really Alejandro Magno, because it is Alejandro Magno, by that translation.
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Actually, in English it's Joshua. Jesus Christ is Greek, it means "One who is Anointed" which is the same as saying "Messiah" in Hebrew. (Jesus Christ is not Hebrew, just that the closest translation to Messiah in Greek is Jesus Christ, as defined above.) No one really knows his birth date, some scholars claim spring or summer, I've personally heard in detailed research on why it's April, based on stars, and what is discribed in the Bible and so on. The earliest Christmas was celebrated in January though, so take it for what it is, and the Romans moved it to December 25 because the feast of Saturn (who was the Roman version of Zeus) was from Dec. 17 to Dec 23, and that lasted a week. So Rome moved Jesus birth day to more or less have Christainity, which was now the Roman offical religion, fit into Roman culture. Now Yeshua Ben Yosef, that was Jesus given name, the name he was called, and the name he knew. Yeshua means "Salvation" which would make sense because Mary gave birth to Jesus KNOWING he was the savor of the world, and he was truly God's Son.
Don Seer:
I was due to be born on Dec 25th.. but i was induced and popped out just in time for dinner on the 30th..
Shallow:
--- Quote from: M Dogg on May 04, 2006, 03:09:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on May 03, 2006, 09:15:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg on May 03, 2006, 03:40:24 PM ---Actually, Dec. 25 is the birthday of Saturn. That's some real shit, then the Romans celebrated that as the birth of Ceasar, 'cause the Ceasar is suppose to be godlike. Jesus real name is not Jesus, it's Yoshua, and he was more than likely born in April.
--- End quote ---
Well his name is Jesus, in English. In Hebrew it's Yoshua. Only the English speaking world calls him Jesus (Jee-zus). It's like saying Alxander The Great's name isn't Alexander, it's Alexanthros or O Megas Alexanthros, and in Spanish it's Alejandro Magno. I don't see the point in telling a Latino or Spaniard that his name isn't really Alejandro Magno, because it is Alejandro Magno, by that translation.
--- End quote ---
Actually, in English it's Joshua. Jesus Christ is Greek, it means "One who is Anointed" which is the same as saying "Messiah" in Hebrew. (Jesus Christ is not Hebrew, just that the closest translation to Messiah in Greek is Jesus Christ, as defined above.) No one really knows his birth date, some scholars claim spring or summer, I've personally heard in detailed research on why it's April, based on stars, and what is discribed in the Bible and so on. The earliest Christmas was celebrated in January though, so take it for what it is, and the Romans moved it to December 25 because the feast of Saturn (who was the Roman version of Zeus) was from Dec. 17 to Dec 23, and that lasted a week. So Rome moved Jesus birth day to more or less have Christainity, which was now the Roman offical religion, fit into Roman culture. Now Yeshua Ben Yosef, that was Jesus given name, the name he was called, and the name he knew. Yeshua means "Salvation" which would make sense because Mary gave birth to Jesus KNOWING he was the savor of the world, and he was truly God's Son.
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Christ is with out a doubt derived from Greek for annointed (Xristos or Christos), but Ihsous which is used for Jesus was also used for Joshua in the Septuagint and that text pre-dates Christianity. So as far as I know Ihsous which became Jesus was just the Greek word for Yehoshua or Joshua. Many Orthodox sects still celebrate Christmas in January so take that for what it's worth.
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