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the 'infinite' poll... should he be banned for inciting religious hatred?
Don Rizzle:
--- Quote from: Hajj Ibrahim Islam Abdul-Infinite Abu Muhammad Uthman on May 05, 2006, 05:14:06 PM ---
--- Quote from: Don Rizzle on May 05, 2006, 02:52:41 PM ---its called xenophobia (some of u guys may need to go look that up), i don't think you or muslims in general give anyone a reason to be jelous. Allah is not the only way, that is the way you believe, which is fair enough and you may even be right, BUT u bring all this hate on yourself because u proclaim allah as the only way, trying to force it on others and pick apart at their own beliefs which is wrong. if it was the odd thread or reply i don't think anyone would mind particularly, but u flood the board with shit people don't wanna read and at times can be very offensive. Don't get me wrong its not all one sided, I said some stuff in the heat of the moment which i probably shouldn't and others have too, however this is not a an islamic message board, muslims are way in the minority here you need to learn to adapt to fit in with it all, i'm not saying you gotta play down your beliefs or anything like that, just show some decorum. Pz
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Your one of the better posters on this forum, I don't dislike you at all. I do want to say though, that everyone is calling to something. Just like I am calling to Islam on this forum everyone is calling to something. Let me show you an example...
Don Rizzle- In your post your calling towards no absolute truth. Your basically saying that I don't have the right to "pick apart others believes". So in other words you are calling people towards an idea that everyone can believe in whatever they want to believe in no matter how fake it is or no matter how hypocritical they are, or no matter the affect and influence it has upon society. For example, George Bush's strongest support group is the Christian right, and they have been behind him and his death toll of 100's of thousands of people which is a higher death toll than all the modern world leaders combined! So why should I not be aloud to expose the hypocrisy in Christianity when it is having this kind of influence on global polotics?
Sikotic- You may think I call to Islam. But by Sikotic posting up soft porn at the bottom of everyone of his posts, he is calling towards lust, and it is actually perverted, because these are women nobody actually knows in real life, it is just lust after women for it's own sake. This is manipulating people's natural inclination towards sex in a manner that is not benificial. So again, if he has a right to represent himself in this sort of way, how do I not have the right to represent myself Islamically?
Real American- He's callling people towards being a white supremist Republican
Ant- Calling people towards being a Democrat
...you see my point, everyone is calling towards something. My call is towards Islam. So analyze yourself and find out what it is about my call to Islam that has frustrated people so much? It's because I'm calling towards truth and righteousness, and nobody wants to hear that. People want to hear that they can do whatever they want and there's no repercussions. But that's not reality.
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The thing is with religion, there are alot of unknowns - which is why no one can agree about who is right and wrong. I got respect for people of all faiths as long as they don't use it as a weapon to harm others and quite frankly alot of your posts do more harm than good, your trying to teach others about your beliefs but in the process you've managed to turn alot of people against you by the way you've gone about it. Everyone knows you are very knowledgeable about islam, i'm sure if anyone has any questions they will come to you, but why attack the christians in general? they are almost the same as you, they just do things slightly different. I'm not saying you can't speak out against individuals or groups of christians, but the religion itself that is something sacred, like islam is to you and should be respected. You've got to remember power corrupts people and that can be seen the world over, in democratic states, authoritairian states and in religious states.
Sikotic™:
--- Quote from: Hajj Ibrahim Islam Abdul-Infinite Abu Muhammad Uthman on May 05, 2006, 05:14:06 PM ---
Sikotic- You may think I call to Islam. But by Sikotic posting up soft porn at the bottom of everyone of his posts, he is calling towards lust, and it is actually perverted, because these are women nobody actually knows in real life, it is just lust after women for it's own sake. This is manipulating people's natural inclination towards sex in a manner that is not benificial. So again, if he has a right to represent himself in this sort of way, how do I not have the right to represent myself Islamically?
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Not even close, my friend.
--- Quote from: Don Rizzle on May 06, 2006, 04:48:30 AM ---The thing is with religion, there are alot of unknowns - which is why no one can agree about who is right and wrong.
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Hit it right on the head.
jeromechickenbone:
--- Quote from: Hajj Ibrahim Islam Abdul-Infinite Abu Muhammad Uthman on May 05, 2006, 01:50:55 PM ---Some people will hate you no matter what you do, and that can only be attributed to their own jealousy and emptiness. They are running in a great haste towards their desires so they are always behind their desires and never satisfied; thus causing their jealousy of others. The only way to completely alter such a condition is to race towards Allah, that way we will always remain ahead of our desires.
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That paragraph oozes with hypocrisy. Do you see the parallel between what you claim that everybody is guilty of and your own practice? You chastise people for chasing their insatiable desires whether it be music, porn, whatever. Well you insatiably chase some invisible being and claim that puts you on the road to perfection. You use Allah as your measuring stick as a person. Congratulations - keep chasing him. Maybe music and porn make people happy. Maybe chasing Allah makes people happy.
Do you realize that the vast majority of people find you irritating not because of your faith, but because of the way you claim that YOUR WAY AND ONLY YOUR WAY are acceptable? What the fuck makes you think that you have life figured out, and every non muslim is a sad, lost, confused individual? If, in your mind, you're on the path to righteousness, more power to you. The problem is you're really limiting your potential as a person by believing all who don't think like you are wrong. You're ignorant simple and plain.
Don Seer:
Poll closed.
Word to Everything:
Yes - 15 (30.6%)
Yes, But leave him be as his desperation and self loathing is ironic, yet funny - 9 (18.4%)
No, But do it anyway.. - 4 (8.2%)
No - 21 (42.9%)
Total Votes: 49
Yes - 19
No - 30
Maybe you should reverse the ban now :P
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