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Islam : Cult?
Diabolical:
Christianity is worse IMO.
Don Jacob:
--- Quote from: Dot City Cartel on May 02, 2006, 10:14:06 PM ---lol at this shit....
islam is not a personality cult, islam never worshipped a human being, islam never gave 2 shits about material possessions
islam commands you to question islam! do you dumb fucks not understand this? the quran says dont blindly follow the faith of ur parents. seek the truth on ur own initiative!
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<scratches head laughs and thinks if the tables were to be turned....lol>
::impersonating tech::
^ look at this chump over here yo, he be gettin all butt hizurt over the some nigga attackin hiz religion like he's serious or something B, word is BORN yo. shit i'm straight off the streets i'm king tech betta recognize, i rep T town....what what!! GREAT WHITE NIZOOOOORTH.
::impersonates robert stack::
if you, or anyone you know has been over taken by the Ithinkimfromthehoodandblackidous viris please contact 1-800-i-need-to-get-back-in-touch-with my roots
King Tech Quadafi:
--- Quote from: Don Jacob on May 03, 2006, 03:45:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dot City Cartel on May 02, 2006, 10:14:06 PM ---lol at this shit....
islam is not a personality cult, islam never worshipped a human being, islam never gave 2 shits about material possessions
islam commands you to question islam! do you dumb fucks not understand this? the quran says dont blindly follow the faith of ur parents. seek the truth on ur own initiative!
--- End quote ---
<scratches head laughs and thinks if the tables were to be turned....lol>
::impersonating tech::
^ look at this chump over here yo, he be gettin all butt hizurt over the some nigga attackin hiz religion like he's serious or something B, word is BORN yo. shit i'm straight off the streets i'm king tech betta recognize, i rep T town....what what!! GREAT WHITE NIZOOOOORTH.
::impersonates robert stack::
if you, or anyone you know has been over taken by the Ithinkimfromthehoodandblackidous viris please contact 1-800-i-need-to-get-back-in-touch-with my roots
--- End quote ---
Jake youre my carnale. I fucks with you no Jomo. But Im hurt. Really I am :-\.
Not because youre dissing me. Or cuz youre impersonating me, but because youre doing it wrong. Cmon now, you know I dont post like that. At least impersonate me with style. >:(
Shallow:
--- Quote from: nibs on May 03, 2006, 07:49:28 AM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on May 03, 2006, 07:02:02 AM ---Paul said that and just like Moses I believe he adds things to appease the times and maybe himself. That's the difference. One is written by a man out of his will while the other is written by God, and that's why I critisize.
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so you disagree with paul? that's interesting. because it's largely the ideas about christ that paul introduces that causes the split between islam and christianity on many issues, particularly the nature of christ. ofcourse, you also disagree with the more judaic aspects to christianity as well which is what constitutes the common ground with christianity and islam.
also, the qu'ran was delivered to muhammad by the angel gabriel, and represents instruction given to muhammad over a period of time.
sura 2:97
Say: Whoever is an enemy to Gabriel-for he brings down the (revelation) to thy heart by God's will, a confirmation of what went before, and guidance and glad tidings for those who believe
gabriel also interprets a vision for daniel in the old testament. gabriel does these sorts of things. so i think it's more accurate to say "the qu'ran is the instructions gabriel gave the prophet muhammad" rather than god's direct word.
--- Quote ---As for your long responses. I think it was made clear at the beginning of this thread that this was not a critique of Islam. It was a response to Infinite to show him that you can make any religion look evil, like Infinite goes out of his way to make Christianity look bad.
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i understood the original point of the post, i was challenging that in itself. i disagree with this notion that people should hide behind their "beliefs" and not defend them.
without question, things like whether or not moses or muhammad actually spoke with god, or whether or not jesus was not conceived but god's spirit directly entered into mary...no debate that there is no proof for ideas like that.
at the same time there is historical evidence and information about muhammad, early islam and how that spread, early christianity, the apostles and how that church grew. there are alot of facts that can be debated. and if people have a qu'ran or a bible, why shouldn't you be able to question whether or not they completely believe that doctrine, and whether or not they believe that religious institutions or movements are actually consistent with that doctrine?
aside from the pure belief stuff (that starts with the nature of god and how various prophets have obtained their inspiration...) there are alot of facts that can be debated and clarified.
i responded to the original post to demonstrate that if accusations are levied, people shouldn't try to hide from it, they should address it.
if infinite has the wrong idea about aspects of christianity, if i have the wrong idea as well...then correct those misperceptions if you will.
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I see Paul the same way I see Moses, and I disagree with a few things he says and think if Jesus were to return he would go against much of what Paul says. Jesus in the Gospel is much more philosophical where as Paul is more instructional. I'm not quite sure what you meant when you said I disagree with the judaic aspects and the common ground so I'll have to ask you to explain. As for the nature of Christ and Paul, the Gospels themselves make it very clear as to what the nature of Christ was that he was of God, and if I'm not mistaken many of the Gospels not accepted by the Church said the same thing. So I'm not sure if the idea that Jesus was God came about because of Paul. But who knows for sure? (the answer is nobody).
With regards to you responding to the thread in debate, I just meant the thread was made not for debate or to raise question but to make a point to Infinite. You more than have the right to defend Islam and point out misconceptions. I just don't think anyone on this thread was buying into those misconceptions and that's why I said it was pointless. As for Infinite. He doesn't have misconceptions. He has agendas. He knows when he is wrong, he just wants to insult people.
Shallow:
Also, I know about Gabriel. Gabriel acts as the voice of God and as far as anyone is concerned it isn't Gabriel's words but God's words so in theory you are talking to God if you are talking to Gabriel.
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