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I appreciate Immortal Technique because I think he represents a great deal of what hip-hop was founded on, and that is a means of expression for the disenfranchised; kind of like Chuck D said it's the "black CNN". They need more hip-hop artists like Immortal Technique, but most of them remain independant because most the major hip-hop labels are not owned (or their parent companies are not owned) by black people, but often they are owned by wealthy Jews such as Clive Davis, Lyor Cohen, Jimmy Iovine, the list goes on forever. This is nothing against Jews in general, but if hip-hop started partly as a mechanism for oppressed groups to express themselves and inspire self-esteem and community activism; you don't want somebody else on top of you defining who you are. For example, since Robert Johnson sold out BET to Viacom (also owned by Jews) they got rid of Tavis Smiley and their news program BET Tonight and they added Uncut, basically they've turned it into a soft black porn network.Anyway, I don't always agree with Immortal Technique's point of view, because at times (although not often) he also speaks against Muslims. Still, he has a right to express himself, and hip-hop is one of the greatest vehicles for self-expression ever created.
Quote from: Shallow on May 06, 2006, 08:25:56 PMI think he's a good rapper. I just hate it when artists take an authoritative role when it comes to world politics and historical affairs. I don't even like it when historians and poltical anaylsts do it, but at least they dedicate most their lives to unravel what is going on with an unbiased approach (at least that's how it's supposed to be).i submit that you hate the authoritative tone because you disagree with it. if you agreed with it you wouldn't hate it.most historians and political analysts are biased. most research is inherently biased in terms of the sources people reference and rely on. most researchers don't start with a question, they start with a theory; and look for evidence to prove their theory. professional researchers, who get funding and grants to verify their theories; have less reason to embrace information that undermines their work.
I think he's a good rapper. I just hate it when artists take an authoritative role when it comes to world politics and historical affairs. I don't even like it when historians and poltical anaylsts do it, but at least they dedicate most their lives to unravel what is going on with an unbiased approach (at least that's how it's supposed to be).
Quote from: Shallow on May 06, 2006, 08:25:56 PMI couldn't see this guy ever publicly agreeing with anything a conservative rich white guy does even if he did agree with itthe guy is basically a communist. what common foundation is there between him and conservative rich white guys? people agree on the facts, they differ on the interpretation of the causes. the root issue here is that immortal technique's struggle isn't really an intellectual argument for democratic political change. this isn't mlk trying to convince his oppressors to desist from their bad behavior. he's talking to the oppressed, and trying to motivate them to get active and do something to change the situation. it's not intended to be a message to convince those it condemns. it is intended to motivate those that embrace it, to build a force that realizes change. conservative rich white guys have no role in immortal technique's movement; ultimately they will lose their power, influence and wealth and accept the new order that is established.
I couldn't see this guy ever publicly agreeing with anything a conservative rich white guy does even if he did agree with it
I wasn't saying anything in particular he may or may not agree with. I'm stating that there is no way I could see him agreeing with it in general because of the hatred. He is a communist as you say but he has no problem finding excuses for capitolist drug dealers or cause harm to people. The guy is a bias hypocrite plain and simple.
He has no movement. He just pretends to. What is he doing to try and reform? Rap a few hateful lyrics? C'mon man, he just wants to find a niche audience so he can make money and convince himself he's staying true to his beliefs.