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coola:

--- Quote from: Hajj Ibrahim Abdul-Infinite Islam Abu Muhammad Uthman on May 09, 2006, 11:03:07 AM ---
--- Quote from: Chief on May 09, 2006, 08:32:55 AM ---
--- Quote from: 7 on May 09, 2006, 08:24:06 AM ---just because they want to fight them, doesn't mean they want them killing their people and taking their stuff in the first place

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the invasion is over. all that needs to happen now, is the iraqi insurgents accept defeat, if they had any respect for their own people, they would stop the suicide bombngs. they achieve NOTHING, all they do is prolongue the war.

has anyone thought what could happen, if peace arose, the iraqis stopped fighting with eachother, stopped fighting the U.S, and the country became stable again ? or is that impossible ?

what do you think would happen if the suicide bombings stopped ?

do you think the U.S leaving now would achieve anything ? if they had an opportunity to achieve their goals, by having a stable government, and peace among people, i think Iraq has a future. a brighter future than what it had with Hussein.

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^^This is called blaming the victim.  The media is trying to teach people that it's not the United States fault that bombs are being dropped on Iraq but that it's the Iraqi's fault.  This makes no sense, but people are manipulated into believing this.

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hey, did you read my post ? i said its not the iraqis fault they are fighting in the first place.

the only reason why this is so difficult is the dedication and spirit of the iraqi's... but it needs to stop, for their own good.

TraceOneInfinite:

--- Quote from: Chief on May 09, 2006, 06:35:16 PM ---so tell me your solutions to the war. i would love to hear them.

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The solution is simple, a complete and total end to the US occupation and influence in Iraq.  Is that too much to ask?  For the people of Iraq to be left alone by outside powers?

coola:

--- Quote from: Hajj Ibrahim Abdul-Infinite Islam Abu Muhammad Uthman on May 09, 2006, 10:38:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chief on May 09, 2006, 06:35:16 PM ---so tell me your solutions to the war. i would love to hear them.

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The solution is simple, a complete and total end to the US occupation and influence in Iraq.  Is that too much to ask?  For the people of Iraq to be left alone by outside powers?

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ahhh so if the U.S leaves, you think everything will go back to normal ? how will a leader be elected ? or will the person with the most gun-power and money automatically become the leader ? - great !

right now, the U.S must finish what they started, what bomb the shit out of the country and leave it in ruins ? WTF are you on ? the U.S needs to make sure the country gets back on it's feet.


TraceOneInfinite:

--- Quote from: Chief on May 10, 2006, 12:03:59 AM ---
ahhh so if the U.S leaves, you think everything will go back to normal ?


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The situation will improve dramatically.


--- Quote from: Chief on May 10, 2006, 12:03:59 AM ---
how will a leader be elected ? or will the person with the most gun-power and money automatically become the leader ? - great !


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^^That's already the current situation in Iraq.  The person with the most gun-powder and money is already the leader of Iraq.  And his name is George W. Bush.  He's calling the shots in Iraq, everyone knows that. 


--- Quote from: Chief on May 10, 2006, 12:03:59 AM ---
right now, the U.S must finish what they started


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Why do they have to finish what they started?  Who says?  And what would constitute finishing the job?  The government has not even been honest with the people as to what there real "job" is in Iraq.  For your information, the real job Bush has planned for Iraq is permanent military presence and influence in the region and control of it's oil wealth and assets.  They will either do that by US troops or use Iraqi troops to suppress the people, either way that is their objective in the region.



--- Quote from: Chief on May 10, 2006, 12:03:59 AM ---
what bomb the shit out of the country and leave it in ruins ? WTF are you on ? the U.S needs to make sure the country gets back on it's feet.


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The U.S. doesn't give a damn about the country getting "back on it's feet".  They're just out for the money, power, and influence in the region.  It's about oil, it's about the dollar currency on the global market, it's about strategic positioning in the region, it's about those things.  Their goal in being there is not for the benefit of the Iraqi people. 

coola:

--- Quote from: Hajj Ibrahim Abdul-Infinite Iz Active Islam Abu Muhammad Uthman on May 10, 2006, 12:19:59 AM ---
--- Quote from: Chief on May 10, 2006, 12:03:59 AM ---
ahhh so if the U.S leaves, you think everything will go back to normal ?


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The situation will improve dramatically.

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no it wont. there is still a civil war about to erupt.


--- Quote from: Chief on May 10, 2006, 12:03:59 AM ---
how will a leader be elected ? or will the person with the most gun-power and money automatically become the leader ? - great !


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^^That's already the current situation in Iraq.  The person with the most gun-powder and money is already the leader of Iraq.  And his name is George W. Bush.  He's calling the shots in Iraq, everyone knows that. 

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thats different, i am talking about a leader for the Iraqi people, for the Iraqi government.


--- Quote from: Chief on May 10, 2006, 12:03:59 AM ---
right now, the U.S must finish what they started


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Why do they have to finish what they started?  Who says?  And what would constitute finishing the job?  The government has not even been honest with the people as to what there real "job" is in Iraq.  For your information, the real job Bush has planned for Iraq is permanent military presence and influence in the region and control of it's oil wealth and assets.  They will either do that by US troops or use Iraqi troops to suppress the people, either way that is their objective in the region.


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what will the future hold if they leave it as it is ? they leave, and millions of iraqis are left pissed off their country is in ruins. your elementary thinking is past the point of ignorant.

iraq NEEDS help to get back on its feet.


--- Quote from: Chief on May 10, 2006, 12:03:59 AM ---
what bomb the shit out of the country and leave it in ruins ? WTF are you on ? the U.S needs to make sure the country gets back on it's feet.


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The U.S. doesn't give a damn about the country getting "back on it's feet".  They're just out for the money, power, and influence in the region.  It's about oil, it's about the dollar currency on the global market, it's about strategic positioning in the region, it's about those things.  Their goal in being there is not for the benefit of the Iraqi people. 


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even if they have alterior motives, it's their responsibility to get iraq back on its feet.

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