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quick question for abdul imam..
Eihtball:
--- Quote from: Hajj Ibrahim Abdul-Infinite Iz Active Islam Abu Muhammad Uthman on May 11, 2006, 07:26:04 PM ---That's interesting, I'd like to know more, could you explain?
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Somebody mentioned it on SOHH a while back. I don't remember everything, but apparently, it's part of a fortune-telling tradition amongst Five-Percenters that they borrowed from Jewish mysticism...you actually pay 50 cents for a tarot card, so you get your horoscope by saying, "I'll have my 50 cent made today" or something to that effect. I'm afraid I can't confirm any of this, tho, cause I've never known any Five-Percenters (only NOIers).
I don't mean to imply that I think 50 Cent is a Five-Percenter, however...he just stole his name from an infamous stick-up kid/hustler in Brooklyn.
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Tha Spirt Ov Allah Clarence 13Xtra Tha Fatha (Iz Active) on May 11, 2006, 07:36:01 PM ---
Somebody mentioned it on SOHH a while back. I don't remember everything, but apparently, it's part of a fortune-telling tradition amongst Five-Percenters that they borrowed from Jewish mysticism...you actually pay 50 cents for a tarot card, so you get your horoscope by saying, "I'll have my 50 cent made today" or something to that effect. I'm afraid I can't confirm any of this, tho, cause I've never known any Five-Percenters (only NOIers).
I don't mean to imply that I think 50 Cent is a Five-Percenter, however...he just stole his name from an infamous stick-up kid/hustler in Brooklyn.
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Interesting, thanks for the info.
coola:
--- Quote from: nibs on May 11, 2006, 10:51:27 AM ---
--- Quote from: Chief on May 11, 2006, 01:45:08 AM ---Man the point of this thread, was to address Infinite in how he blindly thinks Islam, and all it's people are perfect.
What tipped this over the edge, was when Infinite was saying that Arabs and Africans lived in peace and harmony, and developed a 'beautiful' relationship. And when white people colonised, all they achieved was famine and disease.
I'm not saying white people didnt fuck shit up, but he better not spread bullshit saying arabs are so innocent and peaceful. What infinite chose to ignore, in his post, was histories second biggest genocide.
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where did infinite say that? wasn't there a recent thread about the arab slave trade in north east africa? the reason egypt is predominantly arab now, or an arab african blend, (especially norther egypt) is that it was conquered, enslaved...etc.
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--- Quote from: Hajj Ibrahim Abdul-Infinite Iz Active Islam Abu Muhammad Uthman on May 07, 2006, 06:10:16 AM ---
--- Quote from: Ahmed Muhammed Fawzy Muhammed Kassem on May 07, 2006, 04:39:45 AM ---do u realise that janjaweed are also black
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Arabs have always been a friend to Africans. Arabs and Africans have a beautiful relationship. When Arabs came to Africa, the result you see is Empires like the one in Mali headed by Mansa Musa, or the kingdoms that used to exist on the East Coast of Africa in partnership with Southern Arabia. But since white Christians have entered Africa in the 19th century all you see is death, disease and famine.
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basically, infinites cravings to be non-white are evident when he makes ignorant statements like these.
and i keep interchanging between arabs and muslims, because infinite praises not only muslims blindly, but also arabs. if he wants to pick out all the dumbass white people that have existed, maybe he should compare them to the dumbass arabs and muslims ? oh wait, they dont exist, my bad.
let me just add, the arab tour guide we hand in Egypt was a racist piece of shit towards black people, i would be surprised if he didnt hate white people either, but were his bread and butter, he wont brag about that...
J Bananas:
boy is a disgrace to the race
nibs:
--- Quote from: Chief on May 12, 2006, 12:46:53 AM ---
--- Quote from: Hajj Ibrahim Abdul-Infinite Iz Active Islam Abu Muhammad Uthman on May 07, 2006, 06:10:16 AM ---Arabs have always been a friend to Africans. Arabs and Africans have a beautiful relationship. When Arabs came to Africa, the result you see is Empires like the one in Mali headed by Mansa Musa, or the kingdoms that used to exist on the East Coast of Africa in partnership with Southern Arabia. But since white Christians have entered Africa in the 19th century all you see is death, disease and famine.
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basically, infinites cravings to be non-white are evident when he makes ignorant statements like these.
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i don't think it makes sense to ignore the slave trade; clearly the enslaved were not happy with that arrangement.
"arab" typically is loosely defined by language and culture and not strictly as a race or ethnic group. in that sense, the africans that embraced the arab presence and islam became "fully assimilated" within the arab world. all of those north african arab states have an ethnic/racial composition that contrasts with those of saudi arabia (or the arabian penninsula in general). you don't find that sort of blending and assimilation with the european colonizations. in that sense there is an argument to be made. but it seems clear that there have been tensions between africans and arabs, partially along racial lines, and partially along religious lines in the cases where african populations have not embraced islam. if you look at the darfur, it has been described as arabs vs africans, but most of the africans in the sudan also have african roots whether it be egyptian or nubian.
i don't agree completely with infinite on this issue; but your suggestion that the arab/african relationship has been like european colonization has no basis. arab culture has been fully embraced by the peoples of many african nations (after being conquered); what former european colony in africa can make the same argument? you are effectively comparing assimilation into the arab world, with colonization and exploitation by the european world.
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