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quick question for abdul imam..
coola:
--- Quote from: nibs on May 12, 2006, 08:27:57 AM ---
--- Quote from: Chief on May 12, 2006, 03:16:57 AM ---
pfffff watever man. i'm not arguing or comparing shit. all i'm saying is arabs and muslims arent perfect like abdul would like to think.
abdul made the comparison, he said white people caused disease and famine, arabs developed a beautiful relationship. therefor i started this thread.
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i agree with you there. however, you were comparing shit; and your comparison was flawed. if you want to say "noone is perfect"; fine i agree with you 100%. when you start arguing the arab presence was just as bad...the facts don't support that; and the arabs also did some horrific things in the name of islam.
--- Quote ---how many chrisitians are in Africa right now helping tribes? Have you ever heard of Mother Teresa?
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western policies promote disease and famine in africa. european colonization is largely responsible for much of the disease and famine in africa. africa as a whole would be better off had the europeans never invaded at all. the poverty, the disease, the famine in africa can largely be attributed to colonization, creation of fake states, and forcing cash and now market based economies on the people. mother teresa did not come close to undoing the harm that was done by the europeans (largely in the name of christianity) in general. one woman cannot undo all of those sins and harms.
ofcourse there are good christians in the world, it is simply not possible to argue that the good christians have balanced out the effects of the bad. the europeans have spread poverty, and oppression across the globe. they have annihilated cultures across the globe. i'll be the first to argue that these evils had nothing to do with the teachings of christ. but you cannot deny that european committed these evils. and this was done under the guise of spreading christianity.
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^ when did i deny any of that ?
coola:
--- Quote from: Chief on May 12, 2006, 08:33:14 AM ---
--- Quote from: nibs on May 12, 2006, 08:27:57 AM ---
--- Quote from: Chief on May 12, 2006, 03:16:57 AM ---
pfffff watever man. i'm not arguing or comparing shit. all i'm saying is arabs and muslims arent perfect like abdul would like to think.
abdul made the comparison, he said white people caused disease and famine, arabs developed a beautiful relationship. therefor i started this thread.
--- End quote ---
i agree with you there. however, you were comparing shit; and your comparison was flawed. if you want to say "noone is perfect"; fine i agree with you 100%. when you start arguing the arab presence was just as bad...the facts don't support that; and the arabs also did some horrific things in the name of islam.
--- Quote ---how many chrisitians are in Africa right now helping tribes? Have you ever heard of Mother Teresa?
--- End quote ---
western policies promote disease and famine in africa. european colonization is largely responsible for much of the disease and famine in africa. africa as a whole would be better off had the europeans never invaded at all. the poverty, the disease, the famine in africa can largely be attributed to colonization, creation of fake states, and forcing cash and now market based economies on the people. mother teresa did not come close to undoing the harm that was done by the europeans (largely in the name of christianity) in general. one woman cannot undo all of those sins and harms.
ofcourse there are good christians in the world, it is simply not possible to argue that the good christians have balanced out the effects of the bad. the europeans have spread poverty, and oppression across the globe. they have annihilated cultures across the globe. i'll be the first to argue that these evils had nothing to do with the teachings of christ. but you cannot deny that european committed these evils. and this was done under the guise of spreading christianity.
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^ when did i deny any of that ?
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and i'm not agreeing with it either ;)
lets get one thing strait here. what the westerners did in Africa was wrong. there is no other way around it.
lets think about the mentality in the 19th century. divide and conquer. survival of the fittest. if the whites didnt invade Africa, i can guarantee you a different race would have.
so when will you people realise its not about race ?
I TO DA GEEZY:
--- Quote from: Kassem on May 10, 2006, 08:20:23 PM ---most of these muslims in france and britian don't represent islam
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Who does then represent Islam? Could you give examples of Muslim populations that do represent Islam in your opinion?
I TO DA GEEZY:
--- Quote from: nibs on May 12, 2006, 08:27:57 AM ---africa as a whole would be better off had the europeans never invaded at all.
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Hmmm, Im sorry, have you lived in a parallel universe in which Europeans didn't invade Africa? and in that parallel universe did u conduct a referendum among the Africans, regarding their wellbeing?- I doubt it. Yet you seem so assured.
I TO DA GEEZY:
--- Quote from: Chief on May 12, 2006, 08:34:05 AM ---if the whites didnt invade Africa, i can guarantee you a different race would have.
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Really?..."GUARANTEE"?!! what kind of an interdimensional devise do u use to travel to parallel universes man? or are you maybe a close friend of the almighty?....."GUARANTEE"....lol...
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