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the trick is in how god is defined.
even as a kid under 5 years old being 'tricked' at sunday school i saw through the scams of them saying "taste this in the cup" (it was salt water) ..
Quote from: Overseer on May 30, 2006, 03:26:25 PMeven as a kid under 5 years old being 'tricked' at sunday school i saw through the scams of them saying "taste this in the cup" (it was salt water) ..Wtf?
my personal opinion.i _never_ believed. even as a kid under 5 years old being 'tricked' at sunday school i saw through the scams of them saying "taste this in the cup" (it was salt water) .. "thats jesus's tears" ... etc etc.. even at that age i knew it was a scam. i thought the other kids were idiots..from having a feeling of being pushed into christianity against my will from a young age by various factorsthis then turned into an abject distaste for all forms of religion as i saw it as a method of control.then one day years later i spoke to a vicar at his home, i was only there as i was friends with his foster son. and he said something to me then which suprised me, and which has stuck.i dont know how we got to that point, but he said.. something along the lines of.. its not about believing in god or not. but whether you believe in the principles laid down in the bible in other words.. don't take it literally.. word for word. but view it as guidelines to living a righteous life.this coming from the vicar of my local chapel was a revelation.i stil have a hatred for people who try to use religion to bully, or control people, or who try to belittle non religious people, or opposiing faiths. but i'm at peace with those who can be at peace with everyone else.i'm not a follower..the science.as i said in the other post.. there is a gene that people who believe are more likely to have. going by the above.. i don't have it.
Quote from: Malik Ted aka The 10th Nazgűl on May 30, 2006, 03:30:31 PMQuote from: Overseer on May 30, 2006, 03:26:25 PMeven as a kid under 5 years old being 'tricked' at sunday school i saw through the scams of them saying "taste this in the cup" (it was salt water) ..Wtf?yup.. sunday school.. back of a dusty church in some annexed room.. passing around cups with salty water.. "here kids have these cups".. i watched the sunday school lady make them.. and she was all "clsoe your eyes and sip" etc etc.. telling the kids that this was jesus's tears... i was like "blah".. as you would with salty water.. and she was trying to lay this guilt trip shit on (no it wasnt a roman cathlic church either.. i'm christened COE (church of england therefore protestant).. i was having none of it. i do remember being 'excluded' from games etc because i wouldn't conform. muthafuckas!
Quote from: Overseer on May 30, 2006, 03:33:48 PMQuote from: Malik Ted aka The 10th Nazgűl on May 30, 2006, 03:30:31 PMQuote from: Overseer on May 30, 2006, 03:26:25 PMeven as a kid under 5 years old being 'tricked' at sunday school i saw through the scams of them saying "taste this in the cup" (it was salt water) ..Wtf?yup.. sunday school.. back of a dusty church in some annexed room.. passing around cups with salty water.. "here kids have these cups".. i watched the sunday school lady make them.. and she was all "clsoe your eyes and sip" etc etc.. telling the kids that this was jesus's tears... i was like "blah".. as you would with salty water.. and she was trying to lay this guilt trip shit on (no it wasnt a roman cathlic church either.. i'm christened COE (church of england therefore protestant).. i was having none of it. i do remember being 'excluded' from games etc because i wouldn't conform. muthafuckas!Overseer the rebel. That's a sickening thought that they'd want someone to beilive that they are drinking tears. I've never had a Sunday School class like that. Must be you crazy Euros.
(Overseer) - in other words.. don't take it literally.. word for word. but view it as guidelines to living a righteous life.i think that is a powerful idea. many religious texts also try to explain the nature of man and existence symbolically; thus what it means to have eternal life, or what the true benefit of becoming righteous is. alot of ideas beneath that literal surface; and those ideas are largely universal. in ancient times religion was a pursuit of knowledge, now it has become robotic rituals for many. you can see that idea of a pursuit of knowledge in christian gnosticism, sufism in islam, mystic kabbalism...etc.