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^ I hope that's how dre handles it, but I'd bet there's more to it. It'd be interesting to know what kind of percentage of the album dre expects for having such a heavy hand in it.
Flash forward to Death Row. Dre produces everything. Snoop, RBX, DOC write everything. They get a few talented MC's (Snoop, Kurupt, Daz, Rage) and have the songwriting team help them tighten up their lyrics. The Chronic one year. Doggystyle the next year. "Dogg Food" the next year, etc. and they turn out hit after hit album with the same people on it, in what's really a reflection of the way of business pioneered by Nashville and Motown. It's incredibly effective and what SOMEBODY, ANYBODY needs to get back to, to make hiphop great again, imo.
Quote from: Bow Down To The King Of Kings on July 10, 2006, 04:22:50 PMFlash forward to Death Row. Dre produces everything. Snoop, RBX, DOC write everything. They get a few talented MC's (Snoop, Kurupt, Daz, Rage) and have the songwriting team help them tighten up their lyrics. The Chronic one year. Doggystyle the next year. "Dogg Food" the next year, etc. and they turn out hit after hit album with the same people on it, in what's really a reflection of the way of business pioneered by Nashville and Motown. It's incredibly effective and what SOMEBODY, ANYBODY needs to get back to, to make hiphop great again, imo.I agree with your whole post except for this part.The problem with this approach is that it is incredibly formulaic. And that is the reason why Death Row eventually fell apart and their music stopped selling. Sure, you could argue that Dre leaving removed an important creative element from the team, but even Dre still had troubles with his own music for several years outside of Tha Row. With or without Dre on the boards, it was inevitable that people would get tired of the Death Row sound sooner-or-later, and that's what happened.
Nobody ever got tired of the Motown sound. The problem with the Death Row sound is that Suge Knight was an asshole. Dre would have stayed, had Suge Knight not been an asshole. Snoop would have... lets just make it short and say that the best music rap ever produced came out of those first few years @ deathrow when it was ran like a business instead of everybody either trying to do it the way they do it today.
Quote from: Adon on July 08, 2006, 01:49:09 PMBusta doesn't pay that money back. The label invested in Busta's album, if it doesn't make money, it's the labels fault, not Bustas.thats fuckin cool. i guess its a perk of being a legend it becomes less of a gamble with each release
Busta doesn't pay that money back. The label invested in Busta's album, if it doesn't make money, it's the labels fault, not Bustas.
Quote from: Now_I_Know on July 09, 2006, 04:45:47 PMQuote from: PLANT on July 09, 2006, 03:22:13 PMso why dont some of these co-called "rich rap artists" just buy their own studios like Snoop and Dre and shit and just record music in your own studio then it wouldnt cost you shit no matter how long it took to make the album....BTW, I HIGHLY doubt that Busta is going broke over the big bang....all you guys who think you are making more paper than Busta Rhymes are fuckin dumb asses.....seriously....lets not start comparing busta to mc hammer, are you guys serious?I'm pretty sure Busta does have a studio in his crib...Most rappers do. It's just that real studios are usually the best, as opposed to home studios...yeah home studios are for prototyping.. you save money making skeleton songs there..a nd touch em up in the studio..as usual infinite has been a bit extreme with this post.. but there are some very good points in amongst it, and those are built up and reinforced by what trauma's posted..the industry is shady. busta knows what he's doing at this stage.. i hope!dre will have given "mates rates" thats the best thing about being on aftermath.. no 5 figure sum for a dre beat, just a promise you'll guest if he needs you on detox etc..
Quote from: PLANT on July 09, 2006, 03:22:13 PMso why dont some of these co-called "rich rap artists" just buy their own studios like Snoop and Dre and shit and just record music in your own studio then it wouldnt cost you shit no matter how long it took to make the album....BTW, I HIGHLY doubt that Busta is going broke over the big bang....all you guys who think you are making more paper than Busta Rhymes are fuckin dumb asses.....seriously....lets not start comparing busta to mc hammer, are you guys serious?I'm pretty sure Busta does have a studio in his crib...Most rappers do. It's just that real studios are usually the best, as opposed to home studios...
so why dont some of these co-called "rich rap artists" just buy their own studios like Snoop and Dre and shit and just record music in your own studio then it wouldnt cost you shit no matter how long it took to make the album....BTW, I HIGHLY doubt that Busta is going broke over the big bang....all you guys who think you are making more paper than Busta Rhymes are fuckin dumb asses.....seriously....lets not start comparing busta to mc hammer, are you guys serious?