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My definition is from dictionary.com...You lose.
An artist, author, or work generally considered to be of the highest rank or excellence, especially one of enduring significance.
A work recognized as definitive in its field.
yup i agree with u about the classic thing .... "baby one more time" a classic LOL....and this guy is "never" wrong
Quote from: Now_I_Know on July 23, 2006, 03:51:43 PMMy definition is from dictionary.com...You lose. LOL, this is typical of attention-deficit youngstas these days. First thing we do is go to dictionary.com and take the first definition we see? I don't suppose it occurred to you that the definition you selected is the WRONG one? You even picked an adjective when "classic" as we're using it is obviously a noun.THIS is the one you should have picked, and as you can tell, it supports MY argument:QuoteAn artist, author, or work generally considered to be of the highest rank or excellence, especially one of enduring significance.It also has:QuoteA work recognized as definitive in its field.Oops...I just ethered you using your own method. Now YOU lost, son. Apologize to the GOD now that I have proven you wrong.Quote from: Keep the G in the funk! on July 23, 2006, 11:31:46 PMyup i agree with u about the classic thing .... "baby one more time" a classic LOL....and this guy is "never" wrong Except that I just owned this kid, proving you wrong.The GOD is never wrong. That is how I got to be a GOD in the first place.
Seriously, you need to take that finger out your asshole, son. We ARE talking about the word classic as an adjective, genius. "Ready To Die is a classic album"...In this sentence, what is the word "classic?" A noun? I didn't think so...
And here is a definition YOU gave for classic. "work recognized as definitive in its field."...And what defines "definitive"? "Definitive - Authoritative and complete: a definitive biography."...So according to your definition, "Life After Death" is NOT a classic, seeing as it has a lot of fillers. A complete album is a quality album...If I just sonned a God, what does that make me?
PS...For the record, I do think "Life After Death" is a classic.
shut the fuck up!....
(a.) of quality and (b.) of enduring significance.
And yes, "Baby One More Time" is arguably a classic -
I don't think this deserves to be a question..."Ready To Die" >> "Life After Death"
Thank you!...Like I've BEEN saying, quality, though not the only factor in deciding a classic, comes FIRST...Now explain:...You're only a God to the sonned.
PS...As for "Life After Death", it was known that Puffy wanted to trim the album down and fix up the production on some of the tracks...Any real hip-hop head will tell you "Life After Death" contains a few filler tracks.
No, you've been using quality almost exclusively as your definition of classic, even to the point that you argue Tech N9ne's albums are "classics". My point is that an album's significance over time is ultimately its biggest factor in determining quality.
a classic is defined by the quality of the music first and foremost.
As I have said before, "Dogg Food" is certainly a quality album (by West Coast standards), but who besides West Coast fans remember it now, more than 10 years later? In comparison, "The Chronic" and "Doggystyle" are still in regular rotation today, so they have this elusive thing that you don't seem to understand called "enduring significance".God to the sonned? No, son, I am a Blackman. All Blackman = GODS. You grafted spawn will soon fall to us when we take over again.
A few filler tracks? So the fuck what! 3-4 fillers across 24? Not nearly enough to detract from the finished product. If your ears can't tell you "Life After Death" is a complete, well-produced album, you ain't hearin it, son.
No. You're wrong again. This is what I said:Quote from: Now_I_Know on July 22, 2006, 09:59:01 AMa classic is defined by the quality of the music first and foremost.
...And if you knew anything about hip-hop and "enduring significance", you'd know what Tech N9ne has done for the Missouri hip-hop scene with his first few albums. He put so many people on and gave so many a chance, some would even argue he's the only reason Nelly is famous today...
Sorry, the word blackman does not exist in reality...Same goes for your common sense.
"Life After Death" is a classic, because even if there are a few fillers (which there obviously ARE), it's still an amazing album overall. Doesn't mean the quality couldn't have been better, you're just too dumb to understand that. Just like you're too dumb to understand what makes an album a classic...
P.S. "Dogg Food" is easily a classic. If "Dogg Food" isn't classic by your embarassing standards, the west coast hip-hop scene has only put out roughly 3 classic albums, which is absurd, just like the way you think...Done.
Quote from: Now_I_Know on July 25, 2006, 03:30:06 PMNo. You're wrong again. This is what I said:Quote from: Now_I_Know on July 22, 2006, 09:59:01 AMa classic is defined by the quality of the music first and foremost. What you said and how you have acted are two different things. You have continued to treat quality as if it's the only thing that matters. That is pretty much the only way you could make the argument that Tech N9ne or DPG have made classic albums.Quote from: Now_I_Know on July 25, 2006, 03:30:06 PM...And if you knew anything about hip-hop and "enduring significance", you'd know what Tech N9ne has done for the Missouri hip-hop scene with his first few albums. He put so many people on and gave so many a chance, some would even argue he's the only reason Nelly is famous today...What has he done, seriously? And how is he at all responsible for Nelly's success? If anyone put the state of Missouri on the map, it was definitely Nelly. If it had been Tech N9ne, more people would know who he is...but they don't, do they? Outside of Kansas City, he's a nobody. When an artist is barely known outside of their state (let alone their hometown), that usually says wonders about their popularity and their impact upon hip-hop as a whole (not just one small area).Quote from: Now_I_Know on July 25, 2006, 03:30:06 PMSorry, the word blackman does not exist in reality...Same goes for your common sense. LOL, as is typical of suburban honkys, you probably been listening to Nas or Wu Tang forever, and yet you aren't even remotely familiar with the tenets of the 5% Nation or Supreme Mathametics which they recite ad nauseum in their lyrics?Blackman = GOD. End of story.Quote from: Now_I_Know on July 25, 2006, 03:30:06 PM"Life After Death" is a classic, because even if there are a few fillers (which there obviously ARE), it's still an amazing album overall. Doesn't mean the quality couldn't have been better, you're just too dumb to understand that. Just like you're too dumb to understand what makes an album a classic...No, I'm sure the quality could have been better. And the person who's too dumb to understand the definition of classic is YOU, grafted spawn.Quote from: Now_I_Know on July 25, 2006, 03:30:06 PMP.S. "Dogg Food" is easily a classic. If "Dogg Food" isn't classic by your embarassing standards, the west coast hip-hop scene has only put out roughly 3 classic albums, which is absurd, just like the way you think...Done.LOL, 3 classic albums, how the fuck did your amazing powers of deduction reach that highly illogical conclusion? The West Coast has put out far more than 3 classic albums, but "Dogg Food" ain't one of 'em.How is it a classic if nobody outside of West Coast fans remembers it? Most people wouldn't even know who the fuck DPG is if Snoop didn't shout them out at every chance he gets. If "Dogg Food" were a classic, it would be better known in the mainstream. But it's not, which says that it has no enduring significance. Even if the production was as good as "The Chronic" and "Doggystyle" and even if Kurupt is an ill lyricist, that album did not have a significant impact upon West Coast hip-hop or hip-hop in general...and this is reflected in the fact that it's barely remembered today.
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