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Quote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on July 27, 2006, 12:54:38 PMCam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja RuleCam'Ron = King of NYQuote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on July 27, 2006, 01:19:30 PMCam has 2 classics, "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.LOL, this is why nobody takes you Dipset dudes seriously.
Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja RuleCam'Ron = King of NY
Cam has 2 classics, "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.
pac dissed everyone on that album... i swear to god dipset has you guys brainwashed. I just cant understand it, and im not even saying they suck or i hate them but you guys are crazy. It's one thing to say you prefer them or you enjoy their music but you guys talk like they are gods gift to the mic. Only a very select few emcees get that kind of respect and usually the majority or fans agree or can come to an understanding about them. You guys are a very small % or fans and you challange cam and dipset to everyone talkin all this shit when you are the only ones who agree or even show any love. And to top it off your down right childish and annoying about it.
50 is the king of NY, its cleari dunno, jay-z would be considered the greatest if mainstream rap was your thing, hes very mainstream so the kids who listen to him and think its the truthus educated ones know andre 3000 is the G.O.A.T
And I'm being real this time: camel shit and other remarks aside. Why is Jay held so highly among hip-hop fans? The guy is talented and all that, and I never understood why. Even when Jay first came out, and I was a young(er) buck, everyone was telling me Jay is the truth. I always thought he was alright. He's got one classic. Alot of the other stuff in his catalogue were trash except for his most recent stuff, IMO, but most people will tell you otherwise.So please, educate me. Why is Jay considered so great in hip hop?
I've always thought Jay-Z was ridiculously overrated
Pease, educate me. Why is Jay considered so great in hip hop?
Quote from: we$t coa$t on July 28, 2006, 12:41:40 AMI've always thought Jay-Z was ridiculously overratedWordClassics My arse
Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Cam has no significance? They are the new Wu Tang, business wise. They have deals at Def Jam, Warner Bros and Koch. All their projects do good numbers without crazy promo. They generally don't have the biggest producers, but they have very solid production. Their Mixtapes are still highly regarded amongst industry and street cats the same. Cam has the qualities of a Big Daddy Kane, which is what people really like. He's not wowing you with metaphors and similies, but he always has something clever to say ("You don't like men? Me neither, what a kawinkidink"). Or his brags with that Harlem Swag people jock ("Let my muscle show, cuz I'm like Russel Crowe, Beautiful Mind, took his Bitch, Hustle Hoe!"). It's simple shit like that which is why people dig Cam and the Dips. Cam may not be the second coming of KRS-One, but he's already proved his worth in this game. Like I said, for Biggie and Big L to co-sign you, you have to be hot. 10 Years in the Game and dude is still a major factor without "selling out" or compromising his music. As for Jigga, dude is a great song writer. He may not appeal to everyone, but his song writing is what captures you. His flow. His swagger. His presence. Just cuz he's not spitting some deep shit like a Nas or someone of that nature, doesn't mean he can't be a great emcee.
Jay has dumbed his shit down a lot, and yes, he's overrated. But I'd still rather listen to him than lots of cats out today. Way back in the day when he was with Jaz and rhyming in triplets and spittin mad crazy is when he was his best.
Quote from: Jrome Sparks Mad Izm on July 28, 2006, 06:15:14 PMJay has dumbed his shit down a lot, and yes, he's overrated. But I'd still rather listen to him than lots of cats out today. Way back in the day when he was with Jaz and rhyming in triplets and spittin mad crazy is when he was his best.word up..But he cant fuck with the DIPSET!
Quote from: Luke on July 27, 2006, 01:31:05 PMQuote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on July 27, 2006, 01:29:04 PMQuote from: Luke on July 27, 2006, 01:28:02 PMQuote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on July 27, 2006, 01:26:28 PMQuote from: Jome on July 27, 2006, 01:24:44 PMQuote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on July 27, 2006, 12:54:38 PMCam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja RuleCam'Ron = King of NYQuote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on July 27, 2006, 01:19:30 PMCam has 2 classics, "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.LOL, this is why nobody takes you Dipset dudes seriously.Everything I said is accurate, Its not like Im talking out of my ass. Man forget the fact that Cam has worn pink before BIG DEAL! The guy can flat out rap and he allergic to the word flop.nobody said anything about cam wearing pink...cam can rap...but he can't write lyrics for shitMaybe lately his lyrics have been a little lazy I can admit that, but dude still is tops when it comes to punchlines and wordplaysee again we differ....personally i think cam is one of the worst as far as punch lines and word play...and he always has been...even on his earlier albums his lyrics were weak...they just weren't jibberish back then...now he's just spitting flat out bullshitwhatever doggie its all opinions. "We destroy {niggaz}, need advice, cause I heard em sayin Jesus ChristYou should see the sight, cookin ox-tail, peas and riceMakin about a G a night, they can't read or writeBut I got every creed and type, you need a dyke, babygirl I see the lightBut sometime y'all get crimey crimey, grimy grimyBut those with a tiny hiney they get whiny whinySo guard your girl, Harlem World, cock the gun, pop it sonFila fam, illa players, Killa Cam is still the man"Killa, yo, these girls told you I'm the man right? (right?)Well listen to loverWhen I beef, visions are gutterKids clapping, kidnappings, heard her missing a brotherI'm hitting your sister, you kissing your motherThe shit is disgusterUnderground with people, lethal, trapped in the desert, surrounded by evilYeah, I see your bitch is impressed, my kicks is all freshThis shit on my chest, by Mitchell and S.I got her opened, hoping she's not, I'd have her crack in her tits, coke in her twatHave her crack up the strip, coke up the blockShe'd get cracked up and hit, keep soaping your cycle mamiMy girls lay up in suites, a half of cake of week, and masturbate like TweetKilla, I be popping the oozies, copping them Coogis, eyes on the drop real droopyMair is snoopy, look at your hooptie, rocking the rubiesHop in the hoochie, popping her coochieChill while I'm chasing millionsI'm a baller that would merk you like Jason Williams (uh Huh)Don't play with villas', vacate the buildingOr the eights will come and rape your childrenYeah, it's a kilo to a milligramI'm still the man, word to Killa Cam (Killa Cam)Now I was in the boogie down getting some assI got a beep from my block, had to split so I dashedAnd the Killah ain't been around the way for two daysI called my man 4-0 the green Grand from the waysWhen I got to my block, if I wasn't in shockThen I was cause I found out my cousin got shotThey said yo "It was concerning, the germans, they came throughblazing, and burning, left Blood squirmingA line blast out, but he got his ass outThen Capone came in the Grand and drove him to the stash house"Now I run into the house with the tool in my handTried to do in my man, fucking ruined our planWhen I get in the first, tears start to burstCause I see a trail of blood thinking the worstFlowers, casket, hearse, but nah, all I seen was his left leg splitDude Capone working on him with the First Aid kitAnd they told me the scoop on this wild ass pleaseIt was just a graze, in and out his legBut they came through dead nasty, it was Fred BlassieCrew shot shit up quick and then fled fastlyNow I'm thinking - over dough or dice?Come to find out this is all about his hoeing ass wifeAnd niggaz always pulling guns quick over some chickMotherfucker that's that some dumb shit, but yo this ain't done withCause lifestyle, quite foul, lord ? to my sight nowTurn them germans into ashes Harlem Night styleAnd that's how it goes when you dealing with stranglersGirls, the misters and haters, felons biscuits and bangers
Quote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on July 27, 2006, 01:29:04 PMQuote from: Luke on July 27, 2006, 01:28:02 PMQuote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on July 27, 2006, 01:26:28 PMQuote from: Jome on July 27, 2006, 01:24:44 PMQuote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on July 27, 2006, 12:54:38 PMCam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja RuleCam'Ron = King of NYQuote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on July 27, 2006, 01:19:30 PMCam has 2 classics, "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.LOL, this is why nobody takes you Dipset dudes seriously.Everything I said is accurate, Its not like Im talking out of my ass. Man forget the fact that Cam has worn pink before BIG DEAL! The guy can flat out rap and he allergic to the word flop.nobody said anything about cam wearing pink...cam can rap...but he can't write lyrics for shitMaybe lately his lyrics have been a little lazy I can admit that, but dude still is tops when it comes to punchlines and wordplaysee again we differ....personally i think cam is one of the worst as far as punch lines and word play...and he always has been...even on his earlier albums his lyrics were weak...they just weren't jibberish back then...now he's just spitting flat out bullshit
Quote from: Luke on July 27, 2006, 01:28:02 PMQuote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on July 27, 2006, 01:26:28 PMQuote from: Jome on July 27, 2006, 01:24:44 PMQuote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on July 27, 2006, 12:54:38 PMCam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja RuleCam'Ron = King of NYQuote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on July 27, 2006, 01:19:30 PMCam has 2 classics, "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.LOL, this is why nobody takes you Dipset dudes seriously.Everything I said is accurate, Its not like Im talking out of my ass. Man forget the fact that Cam has worn pink before BIG DEAL! The guy can flat out rap and he allergic to the word flop.nobody said anything about cam wearing pink...cam can rap...but he can't write lyrics for shitMaybe lately his lyrics have been a little lazy I can admit that, but dude still is tops when it comes to punchlines and wordplay
Quote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on July 27, 2006, 01:26:28 PMQuote from: Jome on July 27, 2006, 01:24:44 PMQuote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on July 27, 2006, 12:54:38 PMCam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja RuleCam'Ron = King of NYQuote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on July 27, 2006, 01:19:30 PMCam has 2 classics, "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.LOL, this is why nobody takes you Dipset dudes seriously.Everything I said is accurate, Its not like Im talking out of my ass. Man forget the fact that Cam has worn pink before BIG DEAL! The guy can flat out rap and he allergic to the word flop.nobody said anything about cam wearing pink...cam can rap...but he can't write lyrics for shit
Quote from: Jome on July 27, 2006, 01:24:44 PMQuote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on July 27, 2006, 12:54:38 PMCam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja RuleCam'Ron = King of NYQuote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on July 27, 2006, 01:19:30 PMCam has 2 classics, "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.LOL, this is why nobody takes you Dipset dudes seriously.Everything I said is accurate, Its not like Im talking out of my ass. Man forget the fact that Cam has worn pink before BIG DEAL! The guy can flat out rap and he allergic to the word flop.