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Kobe himself said he wanted Artest (and I'm sure he was aware that that would've ment trading L.O.). Indiana was dying to trade him because he wasn't playing. They were tired of his attitude, he was tired of being there - so trading him was best for everybody.I don't know about Spice's comment about the Lakers makin it to the finals. Ronnie would've helped a lot by shutting down Tim Thomas, but let's not forget Odom made Marion his bitch. So that's for yall to discuss.
he wont admit it, he's just gonna talk about Odom and the triangle to prove you wrong
Quote from: Baby G on August 02, 2006, 11:05:30 PMKobe himself said he wanted Artest (and I'm sure he was aware that that would've ment trading L.O.). Indiana was dying to trade him because he wasn't playing. They were tired of his attitude, he was tired of being there - so trading him was best for everybody.I don't know about Spice's comment about the Lakers makin it to the finals. Ronnie would've helped a lot by shutting down Tim Thomas, but let's not forget Odom made Marion his bitch. So that's for yall to discuss.I think Ronnie could of helped LA that much. Yeah and I love it when Kings fans rub it in the Pacers face how we gave them ronnie but we had to he stabbed us in our backs and wasnt playing we had to move on but he is a GREAT PLAYER. And yes Odom destroyed Marion in the playoffs but still overall imo Marion > Odom EASILY
Quote from: Now_I_Know on August 02, 2006, 09:48:53 PMQuote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on August 02, 2006, 09:00:52 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on August 02, 2006, 07:59:38 PMQuote from: MoSavThanLegit on August 02, 2006, 06:41:10 PMyeah i did know he came in as a PG, at Rhode Island he was the man he led them to the elite 8 his sr year and they lost to Stanford, so dont tell me im talking out of my ass...Ive always liked Lamar Odom, but he aint better then Artest, or AK 47. Look at the Kings when they got Artest Totally Different Team, Lamar dont impact a team like Artest does and Look at Indy with Arest they were title contenders without him a little better then a .500 club. Get off Lamars nutsOkay, Lakers without Lamar wouldn't be a playoff team either. And Lakers did better than the Kings...What's your point? ...LMAO@Lamar don't impact teams like Artest...Anyone remember the Heat 2-3 years ago? Lamar LEAD that team, they made the 2nd round under him...Odom>Artest...Odom>AK47. Sorry man, that opinion is MORE than valid...PeACeDude Artest is WAYYY more valuable than OdomLMAO@WAYYY. Slap yourself. Indiana was DYING to trade Artest for Odom...Lakers said NOOOOO WAY!...Maybe that's because Artest is WAYYY more valuable though, especially considering he's a head-case and all, but I wouldn't know... Its funny you say that, cause last year if the Lakers would of switched Lamar w/ Ronnie you guys probably would of made the finals, thats how important Artest is. And of course we had some interest with Odom but Indy actually wanted peja and maggette more
Quote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on August 02, 2006, 09:00:52 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on August 02, 2006, 07:59:38 PMQuote from: MoSavThanLegit on August 02, 2006, 06:41:10 PMyeah i did know he came in as a PG, at Rhode Island he was the man he led them to the elite 8 his sr year and they lost to Stanford, so dont tell me im talking out of my ass...Ive always liked Lamar Odom, but he aint better then Artest, or AK 47. Look at the Kings when they got Artest Totally Different Team, Lamar dont impact a team like Artest does and Look at Indy with Arest they were title contenders without him a little better then a .500 club. Get off Lamars nutsOkay, Lakers without Lamar wouldn't be a playoff team either. And Lakers did better than the Kings...What's your point? ...LMAO@Lamar don't impact teams like Artest...Anyone remember the Heat 2-3 years ago? Lamar LEAD that team, they made the 2nd round under him...Odom>Artest...Odom>AK47. Sorry man, that opinion is MORE than valid...PeACeDude Artest is WAYYY more valuable than OdomLMAO@WAYYY. Slap yourself. Indiana was DYING to trade Artest for Odom...Lakers said NOOOOO WAY!...Maybe that's because Artest is WAYYY more valuable though, especially considering he's a head-case and all, but I wouldn't know...
Quote from: Now_I_Know on August 02, 2006, 07:59:38 PMQuote from: MoSavThanLegit on August 02, 2006, 06:41:10 PMyeah i did know he came in as a PG, at Rhode Island he was the man he led them to the elite 8 his sr year and they lost to Stanford, so dont tell me im talking out of my ass...Ive always liked Lamar Odom, but he aint better then Artest, or AK 47. Look at the Kings when they got Artest Totally Different Team, Lamar dont impact a team like Artest does and Look at Indy with Arest they were title contenders without him a little better then a .500 club. Get off Lamars nutsOkay, Lakers without Lamar wouldn't be a playoff team either. And Lakers did better than the Kings...What's your point? ...LMAO@Lamar don't impact teams like Artest...Anyone remember the Heat 2-3 years ago? Lamar LEAD that team, they made the 2nd round under him...Odom>Artest...Odom>AK47. Sorry man, that opinion is MORE than valid...PeACeDude Artest is WAYYY more valuable than Odom
Quote from: MoSavThanLegit on August 02, 2006, 06:41:10 PMyeah i did know he came in as a PG, at Rhode Island he was the man he led them to the elite 8 his sr year and they lost to Stanford, so dont tell me im talking out of my ass...Ive always liked Lamar Odom, but he aint better then Artest, or AK 47. Look at the Kings when they got Artest Totally Different Team, Lamar dont impact a team like Artest does and Look at Indy with Arest they were title contenders without him a little better then a .500 club. Get off Lamars nutsOkay, Lakers without Lamar wouldn't be a playoff team either. And Lakers did better than the Kings...What's your point? ...LMAO@Lamar don't impact teams like Artest...Anyone remember the Heat 2-3 years ago? Lamar LEAD that team, they made the 2nd round under him...Odom>Artest...Odom>AK47. Sorry man, that opinion is MORE than valid...PeACe
yeah i did know he came in as a PG, at Rhode Island he was the man he led them to the elite 8 his sr year and they lost to Stanford, so dont tell me im talking out of my ass...Ive always liked Lamar Odom, but he aint better then Artest, or AK 47. Look at the Kings when they got Artest Totally Different Team, Lamar dont impact a team like Artest does and Look at Indy with Arest they were title contenders without him a little better then a .500 club. Get off Lamars nuts
I dont understand how anyone can say Lamar is better than Artest. There are 2 sides of the game and on one of those sides Artest is the BEST in the whole league, he is the best defender in the game plus he averages 4-5 more points a game then Odom, how is he not better please tell me NIK.
mentioned a few times as an MVP candidate
You know what...I never noticed that he averages more points than Odom. That's sayin a lot because he plays tenacious defense EVERY night.
imo odom is better than marion in the triangle..marion pts come from transition baskets mainly, the suns are the perfect team for him, he wouldnt do good in a system type offense...he plays better D but cant dribble and create like odom and his shot is ugly. Artest > odom any day of the week, only problem with him is we dont know when he's gonna go crazy and do something retarded but i'd still take the chance with artest. he's aggresive can score, can post up down low and is a very underrated passer, the only thing odom has on artest is rebounding. artest wins this hands down cause he brings something defensively only a few have in this leagueAK47 (when healthy, hasnt been in 2 years) > odom no doubt..he's a game changer, the weak side shot blocking he brings would put the lakers in the elite league defensively cause they lack that badly and he's aggressive going to the hoop not to mention his man D is very good.so lets see, on a scale from 1-10 ima rate these 4 Rebounding||dribble\creating||Defense||scoring||hoop IQodom 9 8 6 5 5marion 9 3 7.5 4.5 5artest 7 7.5 10 6 7Ak47 8 6 9.5 5 6
Wow man, you ain't as bad as the rest, but you got some major flaws in that...Marion is a horrible defender, he confuses you because he's good at picking up weak-side blocks, but his man-D is TERRIBLE, as Odom exposed in the playoffs
As for scoring, Odom is better at scoring than anyone on that list, he's just unselfish, unlike Artest, who will chuck shots despite his pathetic percentage
Now the biggest factor is HOOP IQ. I cannot believe you rated Odom lower than AK47 and Artest in hoop IQ, because this is one of the main things Odom is known for...He has a very strong basketball mind, he knows the spots on the court, knows how to play all positions, he basically has the mind of a point guard, which is MUCH more than I can say for the rest...And Marion? LMAO, Marion is a DUMBASS, how did you rate him the same a Odom in hoop IQ?...
Next year, everyone will REALIZE...PeACe