Author Topic: Vladimir Radmanovic- The perfect triangle player.  (Read 851 times)

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Re: Vladimir Radmanovic- The perfect triangle player.
« Reply #75 on: August 04, 2006, 05:13:19 AM »
IMO Odom > Artest. Odom can do great team defence, he can rebounds, he can do assists, he can even score 20+ points, he can drive inside, shoot outside, he can handle the ball, he can run or finish the fast breaks. Plus he can play 5 roles on the floor. He's like the perfect player. But sometimes he lacks on concentration, he's menthally not prepared for the game, he doesnt play like he could and he should, he hides himself from the game, offensively he's not an impact and he got outplayed. Artest is the opposite. He's less talentuous than Odom, he can't do all the things Odom can do, but menthally he's a monster! He dominates the other players menthally, he's a true leader, he makes thought shots, he battles. So it's true that Artest makes a better impact on a (wack) team, since he has that natural attitude to lead the team. But tecnically Odom > Artest. Phil just needs to work on Odom's mind a lot. Odom is not a leader like Artest, he's not a go to guy, he's not the best player on his team, but as a co-leader he can dominate too. I'm with him. (but i love Artest too).

wow that was extremely dumb, read what you wrote again, you basically said artest is better w/out saying it lol, watch more ball man

yeah what a stupid post that was....Technically huh?? is Peyton Manning Technically better then Tom Brady too??  ::)

and he called the kings wack lol i promise nect year  SAC > LA

To be precise I said Artest made a great impact on a wack team like the pre-Artest Kings.
And you can't deny the fact they sucked.
 

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Re: Vladimir Radmanovic- The perfect triangle player.
« Reply #76 on: August 04, 2006, 05:16:41 AM »
NIK youre the only that believes that ODOM is better then Artest...I dont care about 38% shooting look at how the Kings played when they got Artest....Artest has better numbers then Odom too, which doesnt even matter in my eyes...its Impact NIK IMPACT..you cant say Odom has more Impact on his team then Artest...thats just bein Biased....Someone proves you wrong...You get all mad call them an idiot Laugh your ass then say they have no point to what they are saying...If you werent a Lakers fan you wouldnt say Odom>Artest.....Thats the bottom line. LAKER BIAS!

Again NIK knows his shit but he is flat out wrong and biased here.  Believe me as a diehard pacer fan and as someone who watched the Kings last year I know the impact Artest has and it is HUGE!  Thats why it kills me that it didnt work out with Jermaine and Ronnie although it was Ron's fault but anyways with those 2 on the same team I honestly expected a win every game and with the Kings in the 2nd half of the year they had a top 5 record in the league!! NIK remember how pathetic the Kings were 1st half? They were dead in the water and Artest brought them to contention and Odom couldnt do that.   Artest >>>>>>> Odom

Like I said, Odom on last years Kings woulda' made the playoffs as well...Kings weren't THAT out of it when Artest joined, what were they, like a 10th seed? He helped them defensively, but disrupted the offense, they got bounced in the first round, when they had a nice chance to advance. Your claim of Artest being that much greater than Odom is way more outrageous than anything I have ever said...PeACe

Before they had Artest they were 19-27 they were fuckin out of it!!! They may have not been out of it in the standings but they were OUT OF IT! they had no chance...And how did he disrupst the offense besides two games against the Spurs in the playoffs the Kings put up over 100....and thats a very good defense...Odom would not have had the impact that Artest did, Odom doesnt bring toughness, he bring pure talent and versatility...Ask any Gm who theyd rather have Artest or Odom and I promise you they would say Ronnie! Some Experts had the Pacers winning it all before the year and had Artest winning the MVP...How many Votes went to ODOM?? GO ahead NIK Tell me im making stupid claims....

You are. When you say things like "Ask any Gm who theyd rather have Artest or Odom and I promise you they would say Ronnie!" you're forgetting the fact only Phil Jackson plays triangle in the League, and he needs particular players who fits well in his system. I'm sure he'd rather have Odom and Radmanovic over Artest.
 

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Re: Vladimir Radmanovic- The perfect triangle player.
« Reply #77 on: August 04, 2006, 10:20:35 AM »
NIK youre the only that believes that ODOM is better then Artest...I dont care about 38% shooting look at how the Kings played when they got Artest....Artest has better numbers then Odom too, which doesnt even matter in my eyes...its Impact NIK IMPACT..you cant say Odom has more Impact on his team then Artest...thats just bein Biased....Someone proves you wrong...You get all mad call them an idiot Laugh your ass then say they have no point to what they are saying...If you werent a Lakers fan you wouldnt say Odom>Artest.....Thats the bottom line. LAKER BIAS!


You're being an idiot...It's a matter of opinion, I believe that if you added a player like Lamar to the Kings last season, they also woulda' made the playoffs...Lots of analysts have placed Odom over Artest, shut the fuck up, and stop making dumb claims...PeACe

What analyst?? analyst talked about Artest for MVP (KENNY SMITH AND GREG ANTHONY) nobody ever mentioned ODOM For MVP..And ur calling me and idiot cuz youre getting frustrated, cuz you know ODOM isnt what Artest is..but youre right its ALL OPINION, but then why call me an idiot..IMO ARTEST>>>>>>>>>>>>>ODOM....MY OPINION...


I'm calling you an idiot because you (along with Spicemuthafuckin1 ) are acting like my opinion is invalid for some reason, which is completely moronic...I've seen so many people place Odom above Artest, including the whole Laker organization. Tex Winter was brought up in this thread, Tex Winter himself put Odom above Artest...Shit, Pacers were proposing a trade of Artest & Croshere for Odom, despite the fact that Odom ALREADY makes so much more $$ than Artest...I'm not saying you're being an idiot for claiming Artest is better, I'm saying you're being an idiot for your approach towards my OPINION...PeACe
 

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Re: Vladimir Radmanovic- The perfect triangle player.
« Reply #78 on: August 04, 2006, 10:25:13 AM »
Ask any Gm who theyd rather have Artest or Odom and I promise you they would say Ronnie!


LMAO! Is that why it was so fucking tough for the Pacers to trade him?...Come on now, we all know Artest is a good player, but the claims you're making are outrageous and you have nothing to back them...I already know of GMs who would take Odom over Artest off the top of my head, and that includes our very own...If you're gunna make bold claims, make sure they're valid...Artest wasn't anywhere near MVP caliber, some people just like to exaggerate stuff, he would have been a worse choice than Nash!...Good thing he didn't get any votes.