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Does anybody have that 213 mixtape???
Wow, props to Dubcnn once again, this is the best part for me.He basically explained why rappers in the top like Snoop, Em, 50, Jay, Nelly sometimes do wierd collabos, very commercial songs.... Its like he said they do 2,3 records more pop and they get hated on like crazy.QuoteDubcnn: It's crazy you say that though. A lot of people been saying that for a long time.Nah, but when I say that, it's not disrespect, because them niggas will bring a track that sounds cool, but when he's finished with it, that muthafucka is immaculate. Like for example if you were to hear the Stevie Wonder song that Busta Rhymes brought to Dre before Dre touched it, you would think it's two different songs. Dubcnn: But he still should get some production credit though.But, at the same time, Dre didn't take that from Sha Money. And when he was doing that for niggas back in the days, they didn't deserve to have their name in the game like that, because he did all of the work! So what you found a sample and you got a cool little drum file, but he brought the shit to life, so he really produced the track! Producing is bringing the track to life! Beatmakers make beats. A lot of niggas make beats. He produces tracks. So that ain't disrespect what I'm saying. I'm just telling you what's real.I seen him make tracks from scratch. My whole record the nigga made damn near everything from scratch. "Ain't No Fun", Daz and Warren G brought him the little *sings melody*, that's all they had! Dre took that muthafucka to the next level! Warren G brought in the Donny Hathaway, "Little Ghetto Boy, laying in the ghetto streets." Dre flipped it like "Hold on, gimme that!" Took that muthafucka and made it straight hit!Dubcnn: So you're saying it's wrong that Daz or Warren G would claim that they didn't get the credit they deserved on The Chronic or Doggystyle?I'ma say it like this: they didn't deserve the credit back then because they didn't do the work. They made beats, Dre produced that record. Point blank, and I'd say it in they face. They made beats, cuzz produced the record. If you a real nigga in the rap game, you'll understand what I'm saying. I can make a beat, but I can't produce! I can make a beat, but can I tell a nigga what to rap about, can I tell him when to come with the hook? Can you break the beat down? That's what producing is.Dubcnn: Right, but if I brought in the beat, I would still want my name somewhere.But, if you brought in the beat, that's all you did, was brought in the beat. You didn't produce this record. This song says "Produced by" not "brought in the beat by". Keep it real! So that's what niggas got wrong, and they started pointing fingers and try to bad mouth him, when in actuality Dre doesn't need ya'll, ya'll needed him! Because this shit ya'll learned from him, that made ya'll better producers. He didn't learn shit from ya'll! See that's what niggas don't understand! Before The Chronic, how many hit records did Dre have before that? Everything he made was a hit record right?Dubcnn: Right.How many hits did Warren G make, how many hits did Daz make? None. None. Okay now, look at the tracks that they produced on The Chronic. Did they have any records like that by theyselves? No. You answer the question for me!Dubcnn: Maybe on Dogg Food?Come on man! Dogg Food was produced by Soopafly, Daz and Dr. Dre!Dubcnn: Dre mixed it right?No, Dre produced a lot of that shit! I'm telling you, Daz and them brought Dre beats, and he produced the muthafuckas! "What Would You Do" was just a beat that Daz had did. That "bu-bump, bu-bump", the nigga Dre put all that shit on it, that *sings* What would you do, whaa *sings* just to give it that other shit! I'm telling you what I know man! Niggas gotta give Dre the ultimate respect. Niggas try to bash him and cut his knees down like he didn't do nothing nigga, he's the saviour man! Because what he did was, he showed niggas how to produce. Because niggas was good at making beats, but he showed you niggas how to produce! If ya'll had really did what ya'll say ya'll did, ya'll woulda put records out that sold 3-4 million on your own, like he did. I still have to see it!All the records that they put out solo wise, GARBAGE. Warren G's last record, HOT TO DEATH. The records in between, I don't know. And these are my homeboys, I don't lie to you, I tell it like it is!I think all Dre haters should STFU now.
Dubcnn: It's crazy you say that though. A lot of people been saying that for a long time.Nah, but when I say that, it's not disrespect, because them niggas will bring a track that sounds cool, but when he's finished with it, that muthafucka is immaculate. Like for example if you were to hear the Stevie Wonder song that Busta Rhymes brought to Dre before Dre touched it, you would think it's two different songs. Dubcnn: But he still should get some production credit though.But, at the same time, Dre didn't take that from Sha Money. And when he was doing that for niggas back in the days, they didn't deserve to have their name in the game like that, because he did all of the work! So what you found a sample and you got a cool little drum file, but he brought the shit to life, so he really produced the track! Producing is bringing the track to life! Beatmakers make beats. A lot of niggas make beats. He produces tracks. So that ain't disrespect what I'm saying. I'm just telling you what's real.I seen him make tracks from scratch. My whole record the nigga made damn near everything from scratch. "Ain't No Fun", Daz and Warren G brought him the little *sings melody*, that's all they had! Dre took that muthafucka to the next level! Warren G brought in the Donny Hathaway, "Little Ghetto Boy, laying in the ghetto streets." Dre flipped it like "Hold on, gimme that!" Took that muthafucka and made it straight hit!Dubcnn: So you're saying it's wrong that Daz or Warren G would claim that they didn't get the credit they deserved on The Chronic or Doggystyle?I'ma say it like this: they didn't deserve the credit back then because they didn't do the work. They made beats, Dre produced that record. Point blank, and I'd say it in they face. They made beats, cuzz produced the record. If you a real nigga in the rap game, you'll understand what I'm saying. I can make a beat, but I can't produce! I can make a beat, but can I tell a nigga what to rap about, can I tell him when to come with the hook? Can you break the beat down? That's what producing is.Dubcnn: Right, but if I brought in the beat, I would still want my name somewhere.But, if you brought in the beat, that's all you did, was brought in the beat. You didn't produce this record. This song says "Produced by" not "brought in the beat by". Keep it real! So that's what niggas got wrong, and they started pointing fingers and try to bad mouth him, when in actuality Dre doesn't need ya'll, ya'll needed him! Because this shit ya'll learned from him, that made ya'll better producers. He didn't learn shit from ya'll! See that's what niggas don't understand! Before The Chronic, how many hit records did Dre have before that? Everything he made was a hit record right?Dubcnn: Right.How many hits did Warren G make, how many hits did Daz make? None. None. Okay now, look at the tracks that they produced on The Chronic. Did they have any records like that by theyselves? No. You answer the question for me!Dubcnn: Maybe on Dogg Food?Come on man! Dogg Food was produced by Soopafly, Daz and Dr. Dre!Dubcnn: Dre mixed it right?No, Dre produced a lot of that shit! I'm telling you, Daz and them brought Dre beats, and he produced the muthafuckas! "What Would You Do" was just a beat that Daz had did. That "bu-bump, bu-bump", the nigga Dre put all that shit on it, that *sings* What would you do, whaa *sings* just to give it that other shit! I'm telling you what I know man! Niggas gotta give Dre the ultimate respect. Niggas try to bash him and cut his knees down like he didn't do nothing nigga, he's the saviour man! Because what he did was, he showed niggas how to produce. Because niggas was good at making beats, but he showed you niggas how to produce! If ya'll had really did what ya'll say ya'll did, ya'll woulda put records out that sold 3-4 million on your own, like he did. I still have to see it!All the records that they put out solo wise, GARBAGE. Warren G's last record, HOT TO DEATH. The records in between, I don't know. And these are my homeboys, I don't lie to you, I tell it like it is!
Quote from: prominent on August 05, 2006, 09:39:13 AMSnoop just killed all those rumours about Dre stealing credit, looking forward for their collaboration. Killed? more like just confirmed imo. Taking an idea that was someone else’s and making it better, or in this case making it a hit record still starts from taking it from someone else. I personally believe dre is not a very creative beat maker. I would point to his earlier stuff being very very sample heavy with songs being little more than just well chosen loops with some instrumentation played and conceived by other musicians. It’s also evident in his current beats which are very very similar and haven’t really deviated from the same heavy drum synth combination. Dre’s talents lie more in the technical realm of music recording and production. He knows what sounds good and what doesn’t but I as far as being CREATIVE I think Dre needs those energies from others.
Snoop just killed all those rumours about Dre stealing credit, looking forward for their collaboration.
Its about to get crazy again!!! Not with Snoop... but another legend... dropping in a few minutes!!
Quote from: Mauzip on August 05, 2006, 10:57:41 AMSnoop gave Dr. Dre dickriders more reason to dickride him.He was just telling the obvious truth.Daz and Warrens "production" on Dogg Food >> anything in their entire carrer
Snoop gave Dr. Dre dickriders more reason to dickride him.
Quote from: Detox is not not coming... on August 05, 2006, 11:04:14 AMQuote from: Mauzip on August 05, 2006, 10:57:41 AMSnoop gave Dr. Dre dickriders more reason to dickride him.He was just telling the obvious truth.Daz and Warrens "production" on Dogg Food >> anything in their entire carrerthat's what I keep sayingDre mixed the shit out of that album , it's no coincedence that Daz best beats were when he was fukkin with Dre, same with WarrenDaz hasn't even come CLOSE to Dogg Food beats since he fell out with Dre
Quote from: Long Beach Iz Active on August 15, 2006, 10:28:41 AMQuote from: Detox is not not coming... on August 05, 2006, 11:04:14 AMQuote from: Mauzip on August 05, 2006, 10:57:41 AMSnoop gave Dr. Dre dickriders more reason to dickride him.He was just telling the obvious truth.Daz and Warrens "production" on Dogg Food >> anything in their entire carrerthat's what I keep sayingDre mixed the shit out of that album , it's no coincedence that Daz best beats were when he was fukkin with Dre, same with WarrenDaz hasn't even come CLOSE to Dogg Food beats since he fell out with Dreyou wrong homeboy. warren wasn't fucking with dre when twinz dropped