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95% Of The Time School Is Unnecessary
Don Seer:
--- Quote from: Hajj Abdul-Infinite...BANNED FOR SPEAKING TRUTH! on August 30, 2006, 08:19:28 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on August 30, 2006, 04:57:03 PM ---
Thanks for the sermon but your missing the point.
Where did I assume you were talking about the futility of the Mosque? I said the school systenm was effective and not futile, and I used the effectiveness of the organized Mosque to show what such organization does. With out this Islam would not be near as large. With out organized schooling societies that have it wouldn't be nearly as educated as they are. Post secondary may not be all that useful when it comes to learning and attaining knowledge in many subjects but everything up until grade 12 is very useful. The average College grad goes through 4 years of school at that level and that's 4 out of 16 years total. Not 95% at all. It's more like 25%, and let's say that 75% of post secondary is unnecessary that leaves us at about 30% of unnecessary education. I will not agree with your 95% and it was that number that I argued with to begin with. Trash organized education all you want but it is the only reason many countries are so much more educated than others. I only used the mosque example to help you see what I was trying to say.
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Your still trying to compare the school system to the mosque. I'm going to drop this argument for the sake of Allah. peace.
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Its You're or You are not Your. Go back to school.
TraceOneInfinite:
Not only is school often unnecassary but it actually has harmful affects. Dr. Na'im Akbar, says that the black people that oppose such great thinkers as Malcolm X and Marcus Garvey were usually the one's with college degree's. He's says they've been trained into obedience by the white man, and they sacrificed so much for their degree's, they feel obligated to defend what they have been taught even if it's not to their benefit and only serves the superiority myth of the white man.
Malcolm X is quoted as saying something similar, he said...
"You trust them and I don't. You studied what he wanted you to learn about him in schools, I studied him in the streets and in prison, where you see the truth."
Don Seer:
so if i studied black people "in the streets" and in prison.. what truth would i see?
you make me sick.
LooN3y:
--- Quote from: Overseer on August 31, 2006, 08:25:47 AM ---
so if i studied black people "in the streets" and in prison.. what truth would i see?
you make me sick.
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proven fact that prisioners come out smarter and have more knowledge of how the world really works when they come out.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Hajj Abdul-Infinite...BANNED FOR SPEAKING TRUTH! on August 31, 2006, 06:02:57 AM ---Not only is school often unnecassary but it actually has harmful affects. Dr. Na'im Akbar, says that the black people that oppose such great thinkers as Malcolm X and Marcus Garvey were usually the one's with college degree's. He's says they've been trained into obedience by the white man, and they sacrificed so much for their degree's, they feel obligated to defend what they have been taught even if it's not to their benefit and only serves the superiority myth of the white man.
Malcolm X is quoted as saying something similar, he said...
"You trust them and I don't. You studied what he wanted you to learn about him in schools, I studied him in the streets and in prison, where you see the truth."
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History is just one small quite useless aspect of school. Any jackass with the ability to read can learn about Malcolm X or black history. To learn to read and study reading, and to learn to write and write properly are far more important, and even if what you are taught are Shakespeare and Hemmingway, what you learn from being taught by reading books like that can be applied to studying black authors as well. Math and science is universal. The main reason the blacks that started to fall in the post-civil rights era as far as I'm concerned is because they too often see and treat "the white man" as the enemy they cannot trust or learn from. The chinese have been through shit for centuries and they come up in the American system and strive because they obtain a sense of pride in their new land. I have spoken to many Canadian Chinese people whose families came to Canada a hundred years ago and they'll tell me every time that they are Canadian and this is their home and if Communist China started a war with Canada they'd join up and fight China, because it's what their great grandfathers would have decided to do the second the came over in the first place and suffered to no end by the white Canadian, because they stood for an ideal. An ideal that escaped many of the white Canadians.
I'm reminded of that stupid Dead Prez skit at the beginning of Lets Get Free where the speaker is telling the story about wolf hunting in the arctic and how the hunters put blood covered knives in the ice and the wolves lick them thinking it's food and slowly die from blood loss and then he says "instead of blaming the oppressor we blame the victim" and compares it to what the white man is doing to blacks today. I say that black people are a hell of a lot smarter than stupid arctic wolves and the ones that are so stupid to not see the metaphorical knife, eventhough it's in plain sight and clearly is not food, and continue to eat anyway, well they are stupid enough for me to say they deservedly fall behind. I'm not talking about all, most or even a large percentage of blacks, just the few that seem to get all the mention by both black and white groups and hurt all blacks in the process.
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