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Message to Muslims: We shouldn't say anything bad about Muslims...
nibs:
(Ellsworth "Bumpy" Johnson) - You fucks have hijacked a religion that was not meant for you, and you use it to promote a fascist agenda. Islam was meant for GODS
rather than mocking 5% doctrine why don't you just go after the orthodox islamic doctrine on the facts, if you have the knowledge to do so...
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Don Rizzle on September 20, 2006, 11:18:03 AM ---
this whole we shouldn't saying anything bad about muslims would just eliminate all integrity of all muslims if you can't condem muslims who do bad things in the name of your religion then you are in affect condoning those actions and are just as responsible for their actions.
Just like an army which doesn't disciplin a soldier for breaking the rules of engagement is just as responsible for what the individual soldier did.
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Muslims aren't really in any position to do that right now. Currently, Muslims are under siege all over the world at the hands of the US, Britian, and Isreal. We don't even have a Kalifah anymore since WW1. We don't have control over the international media, so lies propaganda is ammassed against us everyday. In this type of a climate, it's not beneficial for us to go to talk bad about Muslims; handle it behind closed doors and in general terms.
Don Rizzle:
your delluded if u think that will help, it will send the message to outsiders including those on the fence, that terrorism and islam are the same, which i know is not the case but if i don't get some assurences I will begin to believe the same as those who do seem to believe this.
nibs:
(Hajj Abdul-Infinite) - Muslims aren't really in any position to do that right now. Currently, Muslims are under siege all over the world at the hands of the US, Britian, and Isreal.
muslims are not under siege. these are political struggles being fought, and one side bases their ideology in islam; but the struggle really isn't religious or against islam or muslims. it's political.
King Tech Quadafi:
--- Quote from: Don Rizzle on September 20, 2006, 11:18:03 AM ---
this whole we shouldn't saying anything bad about muslims would just eliminate all integrity of all muslims
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c/s this right here
but the problem is condemning the act itself (which should be done) is blurred with an agenda from both sides. some muslims have made it so what theyre doing is consistent with islam, so criticizing them becomes a problem for muslims. and in the west, the same motherfucker asking us to condemn these people have an agenda to interfere themselves (ie. condemn saddam so we can go in, condemn islamic "fascism" that we helped create)
unless all factors are taken into place and agendas recognized, such condemnations hold no weight and serve no purpose
i think any rationale person with any type of decency will say that shooting a nun is a cowardly and despicable act. i swear to allah i would kill the person who killed that nun and feel no remorse.
but lets think who this person was. he was a somalian. he was armed. thus he was part of a militia group, with a political agenda, already cultured into aggressiveness and hostility. add to that a lack of education and understanding of his faith. this wasnt your average muslim. youre average muslim cannot be described by ^^^ what i just mentioned.
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