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If you had to live in one NON WHITE country in the world...
virtuoso:
Sorry my bad ant dont know why i said your article. the article doesnt mean anything? lol please just stop now, so you can not see that the fox news article is heavily spun to give the impression that another election will never be held again. You are an absolute joke you worship a republican government which is the most criminal, deceitful dangerous american government there has possibly ever been.
Ant:
Listen, I'm not going to comment on Chavez sincerity. It's never good to do such a thing, as its entirely possible that Bush has the best of intentions as well. In fact, I'd imagine many of the worst leaders in the world had good intentions, Hitler being the often used example.
But, despite good intentions, Chavez is leading Venezeula down the wrong path. Chavez is a champion of the left, because he is applying far-left thinking almost entirely across the board. What's great about leftist thinking, is its targetted at the motivations of the poor. It speaks to them, even if it doesn't help them.
For example, poor people love to hear "you're getting more money" but they really dont care where that money is coming from, or how much worse off the country will be because that money was given to them. So to Tech who thinks I contradicted myself because I said he's loved by the poor, but still a bad president. Trust me, I did not. Rather, your reasoning is off. Just because a president is liked by the poor doesn't mean he is doing things in their best interest. People often desire things that are not in their best interests. Why do poor people gamble more, and do drugs more than middle class? It's really not uncommon for people to do things, or support ideas, that don't help them. Because on the surface what Chavez is doing seems to be great for them.
Essentially he is doing this.... he takes massive amounts of oil revenue, and invests it in programs that supposedly help the poor. Some of the programs give money directly too the poor. But this is a questionable method. Especially when you consider the demographics of Venezuela. It's a poor country... so what is the harder thing to do as a politician? give away money to the poor, or invest in other things that aren't as tangible to your largest constituency? Obviously, the easiest thing to do is just give money away to the poor. Which is what Chavez is doing, and its why he is so loved by the poor. But the poor are in no position to judge correctly the net benefits of Chavez's investments. If they were informed and wise enough to do such a thing, they more than likely wouldn't be poor.
So what else is Chavez doing? Nationalizing industry, raising minimum wage, and a host of other things that discourage investment. I saw this with my own eyes when I was there. Businesses don't want to invest in Venezuela because they're scared of Chavez. Now, regardless of what everyone wants to believe, businesses are what lift people out of poverty. I talked to many business people in Venezuela. Chavez is making their lives much harder.
Some examples,
1) he created tons of red tape so its difficult to even start a business
2) he regulates foreign competition so its difficult to get access to good services from foreign firms.
3) he nationalizes industry, which just scares the shit out of any business person. Why build a company? if the state can just take you over, and kick you out on ur ass.
Other problems in venezuela. They've money is worthless, and their entire banking system is completely fucked. It's ridiculously time consuming to make transactions over 1000$. Their roads are fucked too. Travel is a bitch. Their airports blow, and because of Chavez its much more difficult to get in and out of Venezuela because he kicked the foreign airlines out for the most part.
Maybe he is geniunely trying to help the poor. But your way off if you think he is this socialist hero. You're way off if you even think socialism would work all that well.
big mat:
it's already like that in canada, u can get elected as many times as u can
Don Jacob:
if you mother fuckers can say italy i'm saying that too AND spain
7even:
italy and spain ... those fuckin wannabe latinos :D
id choose some asian shit, a place with good buddhism/taoism spots, and not too much oppression from the crazy govt
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