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Do yall support/like the UN Oraganisation?

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AndrE16686:
Im referring to the UN Organisation itself.

I think it isn't perfect because it doesn't have enough power and independence.

I think it would be good if it could just do shit militarily without having to attain a Security Council vote, then it would not have to pussy-foot around certain nations with faggot agendas. The UN actually has huge global legislative power, laws in your country generally have to fit within the parameters of UN Treaties on various shit. Im all for the tightening of UN power over your countries necks and if I had my way the General Secretary would basically be King of the World and all your heads of state would be like his lords. Ramble with me my anonymous homies and if you don't approve of the UN as an independent body (i.e. CWalker) spit why.


I was watching a doco about the ANZACs and some soldiers had UN medals for peacekeeping and some of the other vets were giving them shit saying their UN medals are plastic!

virtuoso:

Isn't there a danger that the UN could become too powerful though? as that is the real danger with european union a superstate which has robbed european countries of genuine sovereignty.

King Tech Quadafi:
well for all the complaints of the UN the fact is we need the UN and there is no other alternative. we cant have the world policed by one or two countries. so the un is a necessity

personally i think the islamic world should have a seat on the security council, dont know how that'll get pulled off tho

AndrE16686:

--- Quote from: virtuoso on October 09, 2006, 06:51:51 AM ---
Isn't there a danger that the UN could become too powerful though? as that is the real danger with european union a superstate which has robbed european countries of genuine sovereignty.

--- End quote ---


the UN has power over your countries because of treaties and conventions, these treaties are adopted at your country's choice and once they do they extend over your country federally, as UN stuff mostly deals with the goodness like universal rights for children, heritage/environment protection, amnesty for refugees, etc I don't see how this extension of power over your country's sovereignty is a bad thing. your own governments decide whether to initially adopt the treaties and usually thats because your rules say the same shit anyway. And at the end of the day your government still spends its money on what it wants, it just has to send a token of funds to Kofi. The stuff that these UN dudes do is admirable, defending African villages from cannibals, givin medical aid, working through the shit of the world, etc,etc

Trauma-san:
The U.N. is totally useless.  The Red Cross gets more done for third world countries every year than the U.N. Does.  That's sad.

They told Saddam to "stop it!" "I'm going to count to three!" for 10 years while Saddam just basically punked their ass.  Then, the U.S.A. punked their ass too by going against their will to invade Iraq.  Nobody anywhere gives the U.N. any creedence or basically gives a fuck what they do.  The U.N. doesn't have power over people on good terms with them (u.s.), and doesn't have power over people on bad terms with them (Iraq).... what the fuck good are they?  They're a joke. 

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