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The South Is Mad At Nas
Efrain:
--- Quote from: Ellsworth "Bumpy" Johnson on October 31, 2006, 06:48:21 PM ---We slaughter wiggers and dump them in ditches.
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This is what I'm talking about, you're being too emotional. If I wanted to have a discussion with someone that kept getting overwhelmed and couldn't deal with facts and rational I'd talk to my chick. This shit really isn't worth my time I've already said everything there is to say and approached you with respect, going point for point. In the end everyone already agrees with me and forcing you to confront reality is proving to be harder that if I was talking to Hellen Keller. But hey, I got 10 min before I run to the store so what the hell right?
--- Quote from: Ellsworth "Bumpy" Johnson on October 31, 2006, 06:48:21 PM ---And how is saying "history has not been kind to G-Funk" absurd? Now look who's not answering MY questions, wigger...how is that not the truth? Is it not true that pretty much all of the G-Funk rappers who were popular in the 90s have basically been forgotten today except for a few?
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Ok, I'm clearly unable to get through to you, probably because I don't speak retard so what I'm going to do is ask you the questions so that you can come up with the answers and then you won't have to argue with me anymore, instead you can carry this on with yourself.
Now, I don't like answering questions with a question but for the sake of time (and your ebbing faculties) why don't you give me the names of the top 5 g-funk artists from 91-96.
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You fill in the blanks, (when your done look below)
Now I don't even need to know what you wrote (magic!) because you must have mentioned Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, Ice Cube and either Warren G and DJ Quik or Eazy E or maybe even the Dogg Pound. Either way of the 5 biggest stars from that era, an era that is keep in mind over a decade (that's ten years) old, at least 3 of those names are not only still HUGE stars but one of them practically runs the rap game, more so than he did back in his prime (I think we know who I referring to).
And Snoop has never fallen short of a platinum plaque since his g-funk debut As of now 2006 he's essentially keeping the entire west coast relevant. As for Cube, well he is without a doubt the biggest rapper/actor in history, and even when he comes back to rap after a 5 year hiatus he can still sell half a million. DJ Quik is to this day considered one of the best producers in the game still being asked to produce records for the best and Eazy E is dead. As for Daz, Kurupt and Warren
G they don't have the same level of success but they are by no means washed up or broke. Going gold or selling +100,000 copies is far from doing bad, in fact it's better than the majority of rap artists do now.
So if you don't call that type of success "history being kind to g-funk artists" you don't know the meaning of the word.
--- Quote from: Ellsworth "Bumpy" Johnson on October 31, 2006, 06:48:21 PM ---There was a time (which I remember well) when just about every other song played on urban stations was a G-Funk record, and yet most of those records I remember from those days are most definitely NOT remembered.
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I don't know what type of g-funk music they played on the radio in the asylum you grew up in, but for the rest of us living on the outside of institutions the biggest hits came from Dre's "Chronic", Snoop's "Doggystyle", Cube's "Predator" and "Lethal Injection" and probably Warren G's "Regulate... G funk Era." Even the influenced records from the East coast like "Big Poppa" now, are you really trying to tell me and everyone else reading this thread that not only 1) those records aren't still played on the radio today and 2) those records aren't remembered?
I think its time to up the dosage my friend, clearly your medicine levels are due for an adjustment.
Narrator:
--- Quote from: Jrome Tha Visualiza on October 31, 2006, 08:24:41 PM ---But comparing Crunk to G-Funk is not a valid comparison. G-Funk was much more versatile - it had shit that could bump in a club, but it also had some really deep, thought provoking moments that you could really zone out on as well. Crunk serves one purpose - to get asses shaking in a club. G-Funk could do that, but it could do a lot more. And yes, G-Funk was sampling P-Funk and Zapp but it definitely wasn't pigeonholed to those samples. There were TONS of reggae and jazz influences from the getty up.
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Bullshit. The average G-Funk record rarely had anything other than the same shit about smoking endo, partying, lowriders, and fucking. The fact that Cube and Pac tried the G-Funk style does not count. Please tell me what's so thought-provoking about a record like "This Is The Shack" or Foesum's "Perfection"...records like those are the typical G-Funk album of the 90s. Shit, while I'm at it, are there really any thought-provoking moments on "Doggystyle" aside from maybe "Murder Was The Case"?
G-Funk was most definitely influenced primarily by the P-Funk era. Do you really think it's just a coincidence that the same samples pop up so frequently in those records (namely, "Atomic Dog" and "More Bounce To The Ounce")? Dre's work may have had plenty of musical depth and sonic detail, but the vast majority of his imitators just took the same samples and threw on the synthesizers and backing vocals.
--- Quote from: Jrome Tha Visualiza on October 31, 2006, 08:24:41 PM ---And De La & EPMD were flipping those same funk samples quite frequently as well.
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Not the same thing. Funk samples alone are not G-Funk.
--- Quote from: Efrain on October 31, 2006, 08:31:22 PM ---This is what I'm talking about, you're being too emotional.
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How can I not be when I'm dealing with some dipshit who obviously isn't hearing what I'm saying? You're reading, but you ain't getting the picture.
--- Quote from: Efrain on October 31, 2006, 08:31:22 PM ---In the end everyone already agrees with me
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No, no, no, son, you got it twisted. The people that agree with you are the people like yourself...a bunch of crackers who are 10 years younger than me (if not more), started listening to hip-hop MAYBE around the DMX/Eminem era, and want so badly to fit in with the culture that they have to diss "real hip-hop" cause it's not what the streets says is dope. And then you fags glorify an era that you never lived through, never experienced for yourself...instead you steal your opinions from a KRS-One record and then act like you know something.
But in the end, you are still white, elitist, ignorant, and you weren't even listening to hip-hop 10 years ago like me and Jome were. WE are the true hip-hop heads, not you.
--- Quote from: Efrain on October 31, 2006, 08:31:22 PM ---If I wanted to have a discussion with someone that kept getting overwhelmed and couldn't deal with facts and rational I'd talk to my chick.
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Stop lying. You don't have a chick.
Nice cheap attempt to discredit me by comparing me to a bitch, but it doesn't work.
--- Quote from: Efrain on October 31, 2006, 08:31:22 PM ---Ok, I'm clearly unable to get through to you, probably because I don't speak retard
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No, you're just too thick-skulled to comprehend the depth and intelligence of my very sensible points that all the TRUE hip-hop heads agree with (which you're not).
--- Quote from: Efrain on October 31, 2006, 08:31:22 PM ---Now I don't even need to know what you wrote (magic!) because you must have mentioned Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, Ice Cube and either Warren G and DJ Quik or Eazy E or maybe even the Dogg Pound. Either way of the 5 biggest stars from that era, an era that is keep in mind over a decade (that's ten years) old, at least 3 of those names are not only still HUGE stars but one of them practically runs the rap game, more so than he did back in his prime (I think we know who I referring to).
And Snoop has never fallen short of a platinum plaque since his g-funk debut As of now 2006 he's essentially keeping the entire west coast relevant. As for Cube, well he is without a doubt the biggest rapper/actor in history, and even when he comes back to rap after a 5 year hiatus he can still sell half a million. DJ Quik is to this day considered one of the best producers in the game still being asked to produce records for the best and Eazy E is dead. As for Daz, Kurupt and Warren
G they don't have the same level of success but they are by no means washed up or broke. Going gold or selling +100,000 copies is far from doing bad, in fact it's better than the majority of rap artists do now.
So if you don't call that type of success "history being kind to g-funk artists" you don't know the meaning of the word.
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Did you not already read my other post? Calling me a "retard"...you're too full of yourself to even fucking read what I said.
I already named a bunch of G-Funk artists who WERE popular in the 90s, and I have said that ONLY Snoop, Dre, Eazy, Pac, and Cube are still popular and still well-known today. That's only 5 rappers in total, out of DOZENS that came out in the 90s. All the rest have LONG since slipped out of the conscience of everyone except West Coast fans. Warren G and Tha Dogg Pound are the perfect examples...multi-Platinum 10 years ago, and today they can't even sell 100K even in the few instances where they have gotten new record deals.
Of course the G-Funk era produced classics that are still remembered today; I never said otherwise (again, fucking read next time). I have, however, pointed out that the majority of G-Funk artists from the 90s are long since forgotten. The G-Funk era was just like the Crunk era; there were zillions of cats coming out on majors and putting out records, some getting hits and Platinum plaques, some not. Except for THOSE FIVE I mentioned, all of them have been forgotten and are now struggling in the underground.
--- Quote from: Efrain on October 31, 2006, 08:31:22 PM ---I don't know what type of g-funk music they played on the radio in the asylum you grew up in, but for the rest of us living on the outside of institutions the biggest hits came from Dre's "Chronic", Snoop's "Doggystyle", Cube's "Predator" and "Lethal Injection" and probably Warren G's "Regulate... G funk Era." Even the influenced records from the East coast like "Big Poppa" now, are you really trying to tell me and everyone else reading this thread that not only 1) those records aren't still played on the radio today and 2) those records aren't remembered?
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THOSE ARE NOT THE RECORDS I AM TALKING ABOUT YOU DUMB FUCK.
Try "Summertime In The LBC"...who remembers that one these days? "All Day Everyday"? "VSOP"? "Gangsta Lean"? All were minor hits back in their day, now forgotten. THAT is what I mean. For every classic like "Gin And Juice", there were forgettable records like the ones I've mentioned above. Records like those were the ones that were all over the airwaves in the mid-90s and which aren't remembered today.
--- Quote from: Efrain on October 31, 2006, 08:31:22 PM ---I think its time to up the dosage my friend, clearly your medicine levels are due for an adjustment.
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How about you apologize to me for acting like a fucking know-it-all when I just ethered you instead? Go argue with your imaginary bitch; I'm sure she'll be easier for you to handle.
Efrain:
It's ok Ellsworth, just calm down and give me your doctors number I'll call him for you. We'll get through this ok? I promise everything is going to be all right.
Narrator:
--- Quote from: Efrain on October 31, 2006, 09:11:50 PM ---It's ok Ellsworth, just calm down and give me your doctors number I'll call him for you. We'll get through this ok? I promise everything is going to be all right.
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LOL, why are you telling me I need a doctor? I'm not the one who argues with my imaginary girlfriend. Schizophrenic-ass white boy.
Oh, yeah and you just got ethered. Prepare for further blows from SGV.
Efrain:
--- Quote from: Ellsworth "Bumpy" Johnson on October 31, 2006, 09:15:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: Efrain on October 31, 2006, 09:11:50 PM ---It's ok Ellsworth, just calm down and give me your doctors number I'll call him for you. We'll get through this ok? I promise everything is going to be all right.
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LOL, why are you telling me I need a doctor? I'm not the one who argues with my imaginary girlfriend. Schizophrenic-ass white boy.
Oh, yeah and you just got ethered. Prepare for further blows from SGV.
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Uh huh, right right. Yes I'll go back to my imaginary girlfriend (of whom I live with) and you can go back to "eathering" people on the internet. Spread that knowledge Ellsworth I think people are starting to listen to you! (BLAH HAHAH)
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