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SGV:
--- Quote from: Efrain on November 06, 2006, 04:12:58 PM ---
Lil Jon being the king of Crunk has everything to do with everything.
If Lil Jon is the undisputed "King of Crunk" by his peers in Southern rap and by the fans that support the music then he; at the very least, represents the majority of the Crunk music hip-hop sub-genre. And if Lil Jon (being the representative of the majority of Crunk) says the music is for the clubs, only for the clubs and that he could really care less about lyrics, complexity or anything else that doesn't get the club excited then it is a fair statement that the majority of Crunk music is devoid of those musical and artistic elements the artists themselves admit aren't there.
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No. Snoop is considered the King of the West Coast by many, but he DOES NOT represent the majority of that Genre. So that way of thinking is absurd.
--- Quote from: Efrain on November 06, 2006, 04:12:58 PM ---
You have argued with me tooth and nail about that. For what?, it is a true statement. Now is ALL of "Crunk" music like that? Maybe not (I've never heard otherwise but I'll take your word for it) and is all of southern rap lacking the musical elements that Crunk admits to lacking? Abso-fucking-lutely not. That's my entire point.
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You are UNEDUCATED. It's been proven to you that there's other sides to Crunk, yet you ignore it because YOU never heard otherwise. Well of course you haven't, you are not educated on Southern Music, Crunk Music, Buck Music, Bounce Music, Bass Music, Screw Music etc. etc. to even know whats going on.
--- Quote from: Efrain on November 06, 2006, 04:12:58 PM ---Now when we talk about g-funk being (or not being) comparable to Crunk all I'm saying is g-funk contained more musical elements and is more dynamic in versatility than Crunk. That's it. Is g-funk better? No! No one can answer that it's a musical preference. Could g-funk be played in a wider variety of listening venues? Well, I would argue that point is debatable. That's all.
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Again, Crunk is more than just your Lil Jon's. You are still being one track minded and not accepting the fact that there's other types of Crunk beyond what Lil Jon does.
--- Quote from: Efrain on November 06, 2006, 04:12:58 PM ---
It would seem to me that you are reasonably bright and have a fair working knowledge of hip-hop and rap. So why reduce yourself to arguing for the artistic merits of a musical sub-genre its own artists admit it lacks?
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You're only using the merits of ONE artist.
--- Quote from: Efrain on November 06, 2006, 04:12:58 PM ---
I'll concede your point that more than likely not every single artist making "Crunk" records is as homogenized as the majority, that's fine I can see that. But the reality is that the majority of Crunk as a whole is in fact designed for the clubs and limited in that regard. Lil Jon said it, he is the undeniable "King of Crunk" and the representative for the majority and that's just how it is.
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Lil Jon is your only defense, as we can tell. His being the King of Crunk means as much as Snoop being the King of the West... Something to a some, nothing to others. DJ Paul and Juicy J have demanded their props for starting the Crunk trend, they don't have a problem with Lil Jon being called the King of Crunk because they know their place in history.
--- Quote from: BuddenzNasir on November 06, 2006, 06:19:38 PM ---
ROFL? i did not even debate you, nor do i need to. So sad how your now attacking me after i question you. Someone is a little sensitive. Mr smart guy just cant take a simple comment here n there? How was i trying to converse anything? you wanna defend a topic beyond anything i mentioned. Eh, but sure you are right, im a huge idiot. lmao
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You're co-signing everything Efrain is saying then you try to elaborate for him. You are commenting. You are debating. You are defending. Nobody is attacking. You popped up outta nowhere and started on your little tirade, so I simply stated that sense you agree with someone who's uneducated on this topic, you are too. You got hurt and continued to post random stupidity.
SGV:
--- Quote from: Gimme Punani on November 06, 2006, 02:49:35 PM ---I would like to know SGV, whats real rap/hiphop according to you?
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Anything from Sugar Hill Gang to G-Unit. Zulu Nation to Dipset. Kurtis Blow to Snoop Dogg. Grandmaster Flash to Lil Jon. Biz Markie to Talib Kweli.
It's not that it's real. It's just plain HIP HOP.
rik:
this thread is still goin? Fuck Hip Hop, I'mma go listen to Panic at the Disco.
Sikotic™:
Jesus Christ, it takes a man to admit he was wrong.
SGV schooled y'all, now man up!
J Bananas:
SGV won
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