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The South Is Mad At Nas
SGV:
All but one person has agreed with this character, but he has the nerve to still go on as if the entire world is wrong and he's right. Dogg! I've showed you DJ Paul talking about their type of Crunk Music. I've showed other writers talk about a different style of Crunk Music. I've showed you proof that Three Six originated Crunk Music. I've basically shut down everything you've said thus far and you continue. Plain and simple, it's over. Efrain, you've proved nothing but ignorance to Crunk and more over Southern Rap as a whole. You've done a wonderful cut and paste job, but you've showed no true knowledge to the Music.
For you to down Crunk Music, you should at least understand the music and where it came from. In your mind it came from Atlanta. But, any dope that's listened to Hip Hop since the Mid 90s knows exactly where it came from. Hell, to even take a step farther, Memphis was the original birthplace of Crunk, but it got it's influence from Queens. How so? In one of those links, DJ Paul mentions Triggerman. Do you even know what that is? No. Of course not. Buggs Can Can and Triggerman were a duo from Queens known as The Showboys. They later went to Memphis where they blew up with "Drag Rap" which people later called "Triggerman." That song influenced not only the Memphis sound, but the New Orleans sound as well.
Seriously, I'm all day with this. At least you now admit that Southern Music is seperate from your thoughts (while ignorant, they are your own) on Crunk. But you need to realize that Lil Jon's Crunk and the Crunk of others (Pastor Troy, Three Six Mafia, Ball & G) is completely different. You need to realize you're downing one side of a Sub-Genre. Once you realize that, you'll be able to pass this crash course on Southern Hip Hop's Crunk scene.
Narrator:
--- Quote from: Efrain on November 06, 2006, 04:12:58 PM ---If Lil Jon is the undisputed "King of Crunk" by his peers in Southern rap and by the fans that support the music then he; at the very least, represents the majority of the Crunk music hip-hop sub-genre.
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Of course they're gonna say that because he is by far the HIGHEST-SELLING Crunk artist (please notice I didn't say "rapper") out there. It's hardly an opinion so much as a fact from a commercial standpoint - if one nigga's on top, how they gon deny that he's "King" in that respect?
That doesn't mean he represents the "majority" of Crunk, cause as SGV has pointed it out, it has its own range and pool of talent that can stand toe-to-toe with any G-Funk rapper you esteem.
--- Quote from: Efrain on November 06, 2006, 04:12:58 PM ---Now when we talk about g-funk being (or not being) comparable to Crunk all I'm saying is g-funk contained more musical elements and is more dynamic in versatility than Crunk. That's it. Is g-funk better? No! No one can answer that it's a musical preference. Could g-funk be played in a wider variety of listening venues? Well, I would argue that point is debatable. That's all.
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And that is complete bullshit. G-Funk is known just as much for being club/party music as you think Crunk is. G-Funk is definitely not more "dynamic" than Crunk; it is not socially conscious or even the most creative type of hip-hop out there. For you to give G-Funk ANYTHING close to a free pass (saying it has "more musical elements" or is "more dynamic") while criticizing Crunk, is just not fair, and downright retarded.
Come on, now, you quoted Wikipedia saying that all Crunk is mindless and intelligent, and yet you're gonna ignore the fact that the Wikipedia G-Funk article says the EXACT SAME THING?
BuddenzNasir:
i stated that he pretty much could give two fucks about the south as a whole which you failed to see. So still this makes me an idiot. And this also makes me uneducated for pointing out the fact that you were bringing up arguments that had nothing to do with some peoples opinions....you're still not making sense with me sorry. =/
SGV:
Buddenz... You idiot:
--- Quote from: BuddenzNasir on November 05, 2006, 09:01:58 AM ---SGV...i don't care about the SOUTH AS A WHOLE, and I do not care about the Origins of crunk or get buck music itself. I really don't give a fuck.
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You only want to discuss part of Southern music, but you want to sweep it's origin (which has a lot to do with what we were conversing about) under the rug. THAT makes you uneducated.
da flayboyant 2:
--- Quote from: J Bananas on November 06, 2006, 06:57:13 PM ---SGV won
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