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SGV:
Yeah...
If anything, Party Music is more Hip Hop than anything thought provoking. Why? Because Hip Hop got it's start in the Clubs (alongside the Parks.) It was always feel good music. So, to say Crunk music isn't Hip Hop because it doesn't "evoke sentiment, cognitive process or reflection," then you're dissing the whole foundation of Hip Hop. And that, my idiotic friends, is NOT Hip Hop. Know the roots if you're trying to preserve something.
Efrain:
All right, well to get back to the discussion then why don't you all show me where I said "Crunk" music isn't hop-hop music? I said it was easy listening hip-hop; which it is. You (SGV), by your own admission said "Crunk" music had its place primarily in the clubs and parties correct? And the reason it's good party music is it requires little to no cognitive processing to absorb, agreed? Because I'm sure I don't need to tell you if it was complex and thought provoking it wouldn't be very good party music. So that being the case I would think an intelligent person would agree the characterization of "Crunk" music as:
1) Overly simplified consistent instrumentation (easy to dance to)
2) Lyrical content containing little to no sentiment evoking or mental stimulation (reducing need to "actively" listen... so you can keep dancing)
Thus renders it eligible for consideration as a lower common denominator form of preformed music similar to say techno or elevator music. Now, that might sound harsh and insulting and I'm not trying to discredit artists in their respective genre's who make those types of music (which the world NEEDS btw), I'm simply just stating the obvious which is "Crunk" music is easy to listen to for a reason. That doesn't make it bad it just is what it is.
Now, to take that a step further and say because it's easy listening and doesn't take many chances creatively other sub/past genres deserve more recognition than others... honestly I would agree with that. Call me wrong or stupid or whatever but the fact is history wont be as kind to "Crunk" music as it was to say g-funk, and it isn't because of me.
SGV:
So will you say G Funk is music for the intelligent? You like it. And sure Crunk is primarily music for the clubs but at the same talking it has been around for over 10 years. Groups like 36 Mafia have been making their own form of Crunk for years. So it is safe to say you are wrong there. While G Funk is done and has been for years, Crunk is nowhere near to being finished.
Efrain:
--- Quote from: SGV on October 30, 2006, 11:26:29 PM ---And sure Crunk is primarily music for the clubs but at the same talking it has been around for over 10 years. Groups like 36 Mafia have been making their own form of Crunk for years. While G Funk is done and has been for years, Crunk is nowhere near to being finished
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Yeah and easy listening, techno, elevator music and boy bands have been around even longer what's your point.
--- Quote from: SGV on October 30, 2006, 11:26:29 PM ---So will you say G Funk is music for the intelligent? You like it.
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As far as g-funk being intelligent, no I wouldn't go that far. Sentiment evoking? Absolutely. Complex and creative? With out question.
Sikotic™:
Can you really claim G-Funk is THAT creative when they do more sampling than Crunk.
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