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Quote from: Now_I_Know on November 01, 2006, 11:05:45 AMHeat weren't even a top 5 team last yearUhh they actually won the championship so that means they were number 1
Heat weren't even a top 5 team last year
If I was Riley I wouldn't try to keep Shaq in the starting 5 until he retires. I'd put him in in the 4th quarter, when he can come in fresh and all other players are already rather tired. Keepin him in throughout the game is nonsense.
so how long is shaq's contract? isnt it like this season + 3 more seasons? lol, that's ridiculous.
Well, it's not like Miami didnt get what they wanted out of that trade tho. They wanted their first fucking championship, and they got it. Let's not pretend their franchise would have seriously contended anytime soon without that trade. Without Shaq, no Payton, no Walker, prolly no Mourning etc...
Quote from: 7even the Arch Mage on November 01, 2006, 12:37:40 PMWell, it's not like Miami didnt get what they wanted out of that trade tho. They wanted their first fucking championship, and they got it. Let's not pretend their franchise would have seriously contended anytime soon without that trade. Without Shaq, no Payton, no Walker, prolly no Mourning etc...Dude, they killed their whole future...They were already close to contending in WADE'S ROOKIE SEASON! Imagine if they woulda' kept Lamar, Butler, and all...They'd have a WAY better nucleus right now and they'd be a better team today.
Quote from: Now_I_Know on November 01, 2006, 12:42:34 PMQuote from: 7even the Arch Mage on November 01, 2006, 12:37:40 PMWell, it's not like Miami didnt get what they wanted out of that trade tho. They wanted their first fucking championship, and they got it. Let's not pretend their franchise would have seriously contended anytime soon without that trade. Without Shaq, no Payton, no Walker, prolly no Mourning etc...Dude, they killed their whole future...They were already close to contending in WADE'S ROOKIE SEASON! Imagine if they woulda' kept Lamar, Butler, and all...They'd have a WAY better nucleus right now and they'd be a better team today.Yeah, but they ditched there building for the future philosophy and decided to take Shaq and focus on right now. It made sence at the time too. They should of seen this coming.
Quote from: Malik Ted - Sophomore of the Year on November 01, 2006, 12:47:26 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on November 01, 2006, 12:42:34 PMQuote from: 7even the Arch Mage on November 01, 2006, 12:37:40 PMWell, it's not like Miami didnt get what they wanted out of that trade tho. They wanted their first fucking championship, and they got it. Let's not pretend their franchise would have seriously contended anytime soon without that trade. Without Shaq, no Payton, no Walker, prolly no Mourning etc...Dude, they killed their whole future...They were already close to contending in WADE'S ROOKIE SEASON! Imagine if they woulda' kept Lamar, Butler, and all...They'd have a WAY better nucleus right now and they'd be a better team today.Yeah, but they ditched there building for the future philosophy and decided to take Shaq and focus on right now. It made sence at the time too. They should of seen this coming.They are SOOOOOOO lucky the refs helped them win the title last season, all that does is clouds peoples judgement on what a terrible trade it actually was...If they woulda' lost, like they were supposed to, Shaq's and Pat Riley's legacy would have been deservingly tainted.
Quote from: Now_I_Know on November 01, 2006, 12:52:00 PMQuote from: Malik Ted - Sophomore of the Year on November 01, 2006, 12:47:26 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on November 01, 2006, 12:42:34 PMQuote from: 7even the Arch Mage on November 01, 2006, 12:37:40 PMWell, it's not like Miami didnt get what they wanted out of that trade tho. They wanted their first fucking championship, and they got it. Let's not pretend their franchise would have seriously contended anytime soon without that trade. Without Shaq, no Payton, no Walker, prolly no Mourning etc...Dude, they killed their whole future...They were already close to contending in WADE'S ROOKIE SEASON! Imagine if they woulda' kept Lamar, Butler, and all...They'd have a WAY better nucleus right now and they'd be a better team today.Yeah, but they ditched there building for the future philosophy and decided to take Shaq and focus on right now. It made sence at the time too. They should of seen this coming.They are SOOOOOOO lucky the refs helped them win the title last season, all that does is clouds peoples judgement on what a terrible trade it actually was...If they woulda' lost, like they were supposed to, Shaq's and Pat Riley's legacy would have been deservingly tainted.Don't worry. When the Lakers win it all this year (Rik knows what's up) people will question who got the better of the trade.