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virtuoso:

? for starters waterboarding is horrific, was used in the spanish inquisition is a tried and tested way of torturing someone because the victim feels like they are drowning. Secondly I never said the CIA were torturing children I said the president has been given the power to allow the torture of children. The doubt the CIA is burying people alive I never said they were, however the conditions in Guantanamo must be horrific to have so many people wanting to kill themselves, the suffering is barbaric. Detainees have been murdered, kneecaps have been drilled, this is beyond sick, this is just as terrible as saddam hussein. The military commissions bill allows the authorised use of torture up to the point of organ failure but if death occurs and it wasnt intentional then oh well. its only human life after all. Hussein was just a puppet of the CIA that in indisputable. The iraqi government now is no less evil, torture is still common place, people are banned from criticising the government, the papers are paid off to write positive stories, all public protest is banned, fear and intimidation runs rife and yet these cowards, these scum bags who installed saddam hussein get away with it. Coming on here to argue that saddam is worse than Bush is just really pointless when the american administration has done and is continuing to do real evil.

AndrE16686:
you'd think we would have invented a good truth-serum by now, or torturing people with drugs, like a drug that makes you real sensitive to pain, so we don't have to physically hurt them to get info.

J Bananas:
i never said you said anybody said anything about torturing kiddies know what im sayin? why are you even trying to put the two on the same level. i know youre mad at America but cmon, virtuoso, i wanna hear you admit that both camps are not on the same level. you can atleast do that right?

J Bananas:

--- Quote from: YGZ on November 05, 2006, 04:52:34 PM ---you'd think we would have invented a good truth-serum by now, or torturing people with drugs, like a drug that makes you real sensitive to pain, so we don't have to physically hurt them to get info.

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thats what ecstacy was created for i dont know if its still in use

virtuoso:

Wtf mad at america come on now next thing you will be saying im anti american lol, I am mad at the american government but I am not just mad at them. When you consider that what the media has been allowed to say so far concerning torture is only the tip of the iceberg, then how can you say that saddam's regime was worse? the difference is the methods but both cause immeasurable suffering and unimaginable pain on the people its done to. They are both evil as fuck. The death of saddam hussein is not going to change anything, this is a pain whose power was granted to him by the CIA, this is a man who came with cap in hand to ask the CIA if he could invade Kuwait, he is just yet another in the long line of CIA installed dictators, he was a dictator by design it suited his handlers.

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