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virtuoso:

Yes there certainly are, here are a few books to definitely read Francis Fukuyama's The End of History and the Last Man really gives you an insight into the notion of perpetual war and just as importantly check out Leo Strauss' On Tyranny. The second book is a truly chilling book where the ordinary citizen in his eyes should have no natural freedom the ruling elite should view the citizen as the surordinate or the slave and that the citizen should be seen to know their place. However before you do so his most famous as far as I know anyway is Natural Right and History that is probably the best insight into his mindsight and the ideology which is governing the way the elite are conducting society.

Chief:

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--- Quote from: Chief on November 08, 2006, 02:11:10 AM ---and i support the war on terror, but i dont support the war in iraq... there is no such thing as a war on terror. unless there is a country called terror, where all the terrorists live.

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 :laugh:

 exams are a beyatch, had one yesterday so today was the intermission, got high and gorged on kebabs now i got that 'was high but not anymore' docile sloth in a tree reality seeping back in feelin'...



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yeah i see what you sayin... i think  :eh:  ;D 8)

I TO DA GEEZY:
The biggest terrorists in the world are people who apply this term (WAR ON TERROR) selectively, to acts of mere self-defense/retaliation by those whose means fall short in comparison to their own.

Suffice:

--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on November 08, 2006, 10:48:03 AM ---The biggest terrorists in the world are people who apply this term (WAR ON TERROR) selectively, to acts of mere self-defense/retaliation by those whose means fall short in comparison to their own.

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You opinion can't be taken seriously after the Israel/Lebanon discussions

And yeah, the war on terror is bullshit. The only reason there is terror is because the ppl who "fight it" perpetuate it. The problem isn't the terrorists, it's the people who create the terrorists by fucking over countries.

King Tech Quadafi:

--- Quote from: YGZ-ZUSSSSS on November 08, 2006, 01:57:54 AM --- virtuoso you would kill a political science major, straight up. 

Btw, that idea of perpetual war I know its a Hobbesian/realist idea, you got a refenerence for that not so much in a modern (Chomsky vs Bush)context but as a political theory? 




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ahaha, not all political science majors are stool pigeons  ;)

i guess neo realism would be the best account for the idea of a perpetual war. the whole concept of an international system defined by anarchy and actions defined by state interests that are derived from realism, but unlike realism they dont believe States are the only actors on the political stage. hence, the "terrorists".

i dont know how much coverage post modernist and critical thinking gets in the united states. but some of those theories really explain how such interests are defined, the formation of "narratives", etc etc.

Read a little bit about James Der Derian.

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