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The Democrats won, so I guess that means the elections were fair.
Narrator:
--- Quote from: Hajj Abdul-Infinite...BANNED FOR SPEAKING TRUTH! on November 12, 2006, 10:05:05 AM ---Even Ellsworth's charade comes off clean when his enemy is the Republicans.
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Not really. Allah told me I gotta kill all the white devils, Republican or Democrat, liberal or conservative, Christian or Muslim or Jew, whatever. The Democrats, too, will die in the coming revolution. But their deaths won't be nearly as painful as those of the Republican devils, especially CWalker.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Real American on November 08, 2006, 03:09:28 PM ---Is that going to be the new M.O. of the Democratic party??? When Democrats win, they simply got more votes......when Republicans win, they cheated?
Its funny how the Democrats never seem to have a problem with the legitimacy of an election when they are the winners. And it is also interesting that the Republicans didn't have to resort to the childish fraud accusations and conspiracy theories that the Dems resorted to back during the 2000 and 2004 elections. No Republican is saying that the voting lines were too long, that the ballots were too confusing, that Republicans were chased away from polls, etc. They can accept defeat graciously and move on. Unfortunately Democrats would rather cause as much chaos as possible and undermine the legitimacy of an election then accept defeat.
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For what it's worth I feel the 1960 Election wasn't fair at all. I consider myself a Democrat (although I also consider myself a conservative. Hell, Nixon's my favourite President) and I have no problem admitting that the Dems screw people over for the vote just like the Reps do. The people with the money make it so.
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Shallow on November 13, 2006, 08:43:11 PM ---
For what it's worth I feel the 1960 Election wasn't fair at all. I consider myself a Democrat (although I also consider myself a conservative. Hell, Nixon's my favourite President) and I have no problem admitting that the Dems screw people over for the vote just like the Reps do. The people with the money make it so.
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Why is Nixon your favorite president?
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Hajj Abdul-Infinite...BANNED FOR SPEAKING TRUTH! on November 13, 2006, 11:28:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on November 13, 2006, 08:43:11 PM ---
For what it's worth I feel the 1960 Election wasn't fair at all. I consider myself a Democrat (although I also consider myself a conservative. Hell, Nixon's my favourite President) and I have no problem admitting that the Dems screw people over for the vote just like the Reps do. The people with the money make it so.
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Why is Nixon your favorite president?
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The public perception of him gets me to lean towards him because he gets viewed as some kind of ultra right wing war nut but if you look at the bills he passed and tried to pass he was also a liberal reformist, but he wasn't stupid about it. His welfare plans for the extremely poor would have lead to s bill being passed where you could actually put money towards investments rather than just throw it away like rent on ghetto houses and he had the first affirmative action plan to help qualified blacks get jobs they deserved, an not just a numbers game to help the stats. He also was a huge critic of the US Foreign Policies in the mid east and Africa. The thinks the vast majority of voting Americans are idiots.
Also here are some quotes that may make you like him;
"Jewish families are close, but there's this strange malignancy that seems to creep among them - radicalism."
"The Jews are irreligious, atheistic, immoral bunch of bastards."
Responding to Rev. Billy Graham's assertion that the Jews have a "stranglehold" on the media that "has to be broken or the country's going down the drain." Nixon: "I can't ever say that, but I believe it."
What about the rich Jews? The IRS is full of Jews, Bob."
These are mostly from the discvered tapes of conversations he had with his Chief of Staff.
Anyway, I guess he's my favourite because he just comes off as an asshole who thinks he is the only one that can fix the country and the people need to stay out of his way. The rest of the presidents I've studied all seem like they are trying to do it for the people when they aren't. With Nixon I just get the impresseion he was trying to do it for Nixon and htat he purposely did not try and hide that fact like all the others do. Keep in mind that saying he's my favourite President doesn't mean he's my favourite person.
I also have to mention how much I liked his "New American Revolution". Nixon didn't like the idea that Washington had so much control over the country. He wanted to shift a lot of the power to the States and communities. His revenue sharing plan would have given block grants to the Governors of each state so that they could be more hands on and in control of what to do with the state. A block grant is federal money handed out to each state. Nixon felt it was time to put the power back in the hands of the people close to the ground. The towns would decide what was appropriate for their town, not the president. The opposition to the idea was that the local governments are too corrupt but Nixon knew that Washington was at least as corrupt as any other government.
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Shallow on November 14, 2006, 06:34:15 AM ---
The public perception of him gets me to lean towards him because he gets viewed as some kind of ultra right wing war nut but if you look at the bills he passed and tried to pass he was also a liberal reformist, but he wasn't stupid about it. His welfare plans for the extremely poor would have lead to s bill being passed where you could actually put money towards investments rather than just throw it away like rent on ghetto houses and he had the first affirmative action plan to help qualified blacks get jobs they deserved, an not just a numbers game to help the stats. He also was a huge critic of the US Foreign Policies in the mid east and Africa. The thinks the vast majority of voting Americans are idiots.
Also here are some quotes that may make you like him;
"Jewish families are close, but there's this strange malignancy that seems to creep among them - radicalism."
"The Jews are irreligious, atheistic, immoral bunch of bastards."
Responding to Rev. Billy Graham's assertion that the Jews have a "stranglehold" on the media that "has to be broken or the country's going down the drain." Nixon: "I can't ever say that, but I believe it."
What about the rich Jews? The IRS is full of Jews, Bob."
These are mostly from the discvered tapes of conversations he had with his Chief of Staff.
Anyway, I guess he's my favourite because he just comes off as an asshole who thinks he is the only one that can fix the country and the people need to stay out of his way. The rest of the presidents I've studied all seem like they are trying to do it for the people when they aren't. With Nixon I just get the impresseion he was trying to do it for Nixon and htat he purposely did not try and hide that fact like all the others do. Keep in mind that saying he's my favourite President doesn't mean he's my favourite person.
I also have to mention how much I liked his "New American Revolution". Nixon didn't like the idea that Washington had so much control over the country. He wanted to shift a lot of the power to the States and communities. His revenue sharing plan would have given block grants to the Governors of each state so that they could be more hands on and in control of what to do with the state. A block grant is federal money handed out to each state. Nixon felt it was time to put the power back in the hands of the people close to the ground. The towns would decide what was appropriate for their town, not the president. The opposition to the idea was that the local governments are too corrupt but Nixon knew that Washington was at least as corrupt as any other government.
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Nice post. You articulated your response well. Still I think he was an ultra-conservative, bigoted, racist, war monger; but you brought up some good points in his defense. I would be interested to hear more about what he said about the middle east and africa.
btw, I know you did mention this, and it does fit your character at the forum, since I know you like to remain elusive; I think some of the reason why you like him is because everyone else hates him. I think you follow the perspective that too much agreement kills a chat.
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