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AndrE16686:

--- Quote from: M Dogg on November 10, 2006, 11:12:12 PM ---I think that this class of Dems is exactlt what this county needs right now.

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For real, if Bush approval continues to slip then Dems may get ballsy and pass shit daring Bush to veto it,

TraceOneInfinite:

--- Quote from: M Dogg on November 10, 2006, 11:12:12 PM ---
As for our nuts, most of them are now green, it is now time for the Republicans to find a party for their nuts.


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Explain how the green party are supposedly "nuts".  That's playing the same game as the Republicans if your just going to use name-calling to mislead people.   

M Dogg™:
they are extremest, the Dems are for higher taxes on the rich, and social government spending, the Greens want very high taxes, and very high social spending. Also, the Dems are for environmental issues, and the Greens basically believe we should be one with mother nature. The average American can't relate. They relate more with Bill O'Reilly than they do the Greens. The Green are basically a college party, the members are future Democrats, but until they mature and realize the real world wouldn't support many issues they stand by, they have the Greens. The Republicans are a right wing party, but there are many people that are not on the level of a Pat Buchanan, those who are trying to basically cut the government to just the military and the post office, have privitazed police, a volenteer fire fighting force, and bringing family values to be run by the Christian churches. The average American can't relate, but this is who the extreme right wingers are. But instead of them having their own party, they vote Republican, and so we have Bush who tried to appeal to them, and the average American. What ends up happening is a Republican president then has to justify a war by claiming God told him to do it. A Green is not a Democrat, and Buchanan is not a modern Republican.

TraceOneInfinite:

--- Quote from: M Dogg on November 12, 2006, 02:01:19 PM ---they are extremest,


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...you sound like George Bush.  Again that's just using name calling to isolate people without any real knowledge to back up your statements.



--- Quote from: M Dogg on November 12, 2006, 02:01:19 PM ---
the Dems are for higher taxes on the rich, and social government spending, the Greens want very high taxes, and very high social spending.


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Really, this was the only real argument you even attempted to put forth in all your excessive verbal husk.  The problem is the statement you made is not at all true.  You seemed to be fooled by the Ronald Reagan era propaganda that "wellfare queens" were the ones stealing all your money.  The truth is a very small chunk of taxes goes to social wellfare programs, and the large chunk goes to military spending/bomb making in Iraq and Afganistan, and to have troops permanently deployed in military operations existing in 100 countries around the world.  The greens want to cut our astronomically high military spending which is greater than all the other countries in the world combined.  This would actually cut taxes and allow more money for public spending.



--- Quote from: M Dogg on November 12, 2006, 02:01:19 PM ---Also, the Dems are for environmental issues, and the Greens basically believe we should be one with mother nature. The average American can't relate. They relate more with Bill O'Reilly than they do the Greens. The Green are basically a college party, the members are future Democrats, but until they mature and realize the real world wouldn't support many issues they stand by, they have the Greens. The Republicans are a right wing party, but there are many people that are not on the level of a Pat Buchanan, those who are trying to basically cut the government to just the military and the post office, have privitazed police, a volenteer fire fighting force, and bringing family values to be run by the Christian churches. The average American can't relate, but this is who the extreme right wingers are. But instead of them having their own party, they vote Republican, and so we have Bush who tried to appeal to them, and the average American. What ends up happening is a Republican president then has to justify a war by claiming God told him to do it. A Green is not a Democrat, and Buchanan is not a modern Republican.

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Your Buchanon analogy doesn't work either.  You want to paint the Greens as being outside the mainstream and that's true.  But since when has being outside the mainstream been a bad thing?  Jesus, in his time, was outside the mainstream.  It's good to be counter-culture in this day and age.  Remember, it was the mainstream that supported the war in Iraq, believed that Sadaam Hussien shared responsibility for Sept. 11th, and that he had weapons of mass destruction and was an imminent threat. 

So again, does being outside the mainstream make the Green Party "nuts".  The onus was on you to back up your statement that the green party were "nuts" and you failed to do anything besides call them "tree-huggers and extremists".

Primo:
Infinite is right. Just because something is out of the mainstream doesn't mean it that it is not better and is wrong. It is just like if you would call a religion out of the mainstream religions a cult.  This is labeling people negatively because thier thinking is outside of mainstream thinking. Infinite is right again. Jesus was portrayed as a looney person and crazy by society because he did not believe in the traditional mainstream beliefs of the time. We have not learned a thing, we are the same type of people that would have crucified Jesus, just with higher technology. Our wisdom hasn't grown at all and I can point out alot of people to prove my point. Democrats and Republicans are the same animal. For example ; there would be no income tax because there is no law calling for one. They obviously know this FACT and are trying to keep it quiet. Is this not knowingly deceiving the people? We need a revolution to put in power a form of government that puts humanitarianism first instead of self- interest. Call me whatever you want but this is the only way to help our country from turning into a police state.

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