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Now_Im_Not_Banned

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Why "my friend" hates the Wii he bought...
« on: November 23, 2006, 05:29:46 PM »
Alright, before I get onto my argument against the Wii, I have one thing to say. I just saw the new screenshots for MGS4, and... I don't know what to think. It looks horrible now; as bad as the 360. If this is what the PS3 ends up looking like, I will be buying NO console this Generation. I remain by the White Knight preview, because that's what the PS3 is capable of, and it was gameplay. I don't know what to think. Is MGS4 just crap? Is that what the PS3 will really look like? I don't know. So, either I'll end up hating MGS4 ('s graphics, because I could never bring myself to hate the story just because of the graphics), or I'll end up hating the PS3. If that happens, it means I'll hate ALL next-gen consoles. Weird.

Alright, on to the Wii. A lot of people have been taking the Wii with open arms because... To be honest, I have no freaking idea. People are so desperate these days to distance themselves from old stereotyes like masculinity and being shallow, so much that people are doing everything they can to pretend that graphics don't matter, even going as far as, it seems in the case of the Wii, embrace BAD graphics.

But that's social commentary and is irrelevant to why I hate the Wii. So! Moving on.

The reason I have the Wii can be summed up simply by looking at exactly how the Wii works. Many people, myself included, were under the impression that the Wii would have some kind of infrared ability, similar to consoles using guns such as the Zapper and G-Con. This would make the Wii good for, on top of crappy gimmick games like Warioware and Sports simulators, FPS'. Making a good FPS on a console is kind of the dream of all FPS developers. We all know that until we find some way to simultaneously have all the controls an FPS needs (Grenades, Crouch, Jump, Run, Switch weapons, Flashlight, the list goes on) and have an aiming method as good as the Mouse, no console FPS will ever compare with a PC FPS.

In my opinion the closest was Metroid Prime, and I didn't even consider that an FPS since you don't really aim.

So, should the Wii have had infrared, it could have been okay for FPS'.

However, the Wii does not have infrared.

Instead, all's it has is the weight sensor that Nintendo rant about.

Essentially, what this means, is that in FPS' (Red Steel instantly comes to mind) you won't actually be aiming at the screen... Just 'scrolling'. Think of it like one of those computer mice that only have a big ball on the top to scroll, with, or a laptop's touch pad. You could be aiming a meter left of the screen to aim at someone.

The Wii's only use is stupid, gimmicky games, and that's just... Stupid.

One of the major problems of games has always been giving the player access to everything they need to be able to access, at once. Often this has meant frequent menu screens, switching movelists mid-battle, and having to go through a lot of awkward menus in the heat of a rough fight that could end up losing you the duel. This is one of the most frustrating things for a gamer, because it reminds us that we're playing a game. We haven't lost because we missed with that critical last bullet, or because we tried a risky attack and left ourselves wide open for retaliation; we've lost because we pressed the wrong button, went into the wrong menu, and had to get out again, all the while trying to dodge the onslaught of the opponent.

The Playstation 2 control had 10 buttons, as did the XBox control. Many more technical games made full use of the entire control.

Phantom Crash comes to mind:

-Left Weapon

-Right Weapon

-Left Shoulder Weapon

-Right Shoulder Weapon

-Optic Camo

-Jump

-Dash Left

-Dash Right

-Reset Reticle

-Instant Run

Not having any one of these would have led to a weapon menu, OC being in the pause menu, or any other number of stupid things. Being unable to reset the aiming reticle would have cost me many deaths, and the lack of instant-run would have made jumping in the game useless. Changing the acceleration mechanics would have greatly changed the way the game played.

So how in the hell are you going to play a game as beautiful and complex as Phantom Crash using only what is effectively two analogues, a single button and a D-pad? The simple answer is that you WON'T. All of the games on the Wii are going to be simple. Basic. And in the end, while I can enjoy the occasional simple game, I'll always prefer a complicated one. Budokai3 is one of my favourite fighting games, but not AS a fighting game. To me, Budokai3 is just a way of re-enacting the awesome style of DBZ fighting that, where others have tried to rip off, they've all failed. I could never take it seriously because there's just too many exploits, abuses, and bugs. The hitboxing is horrible, there's far too many invincibility periods in it, and if I try to take it seriously it just ends up frustrating me.

And that pretty much just summed up the Wii. It might be fun as a gimmick, but if you try to take it seriously at all, it'll just frustrate you.

But no, that's not all I have against the Wii. If the Wii was just another DS, I could deal with it just fine. Some dumb gimmick that I'll never really go near.

Unfortunately, due to the whole 'anti-stereotypes' thing I was talking about before (what's so wrong about a male being MALE anyway, you damn emos?), the Wii has... Sky-rocketted in popularity.

Every moron who has a 360 is getting one.

Half the people who saw the common sense in the PS3, somehow also decided they were getting one.

Every moron who, even after the Gamecube, still isn't convinced that Nintendo can't make consoles anymore, is getting one.

And every idiot who just wants to seem open-minded and deep, is getting one.

Nearly every single gamer is getting one, and a lot of people who aren't gamers are getting one. The Wii is a very long shot more popular than the 360, and I can't even think of how much more popular it is than the PS3.

This, alone, would annoy me greatly.

Unfortunately, Microsoft and Sony are large companies and will do whatever they think will get more people interested/make more money. Let's go back to some Basic Mathematics here.

Unpopular Company + Stupid Gimmick Console = Popular.

Popular company + Stupid Gimmick Console = $$$$$$$.

Do you see what I'm getting at, yet? If the Wii keeps this **** up and emerges in blatant victory of this generation's console wars, Sony and Microsoft will follow suit, and make stupid gimmick consoles.

Nintendo are on the precipice of absolutely destroying gaming.

In a way, this upsets me deeply. But in another, it doesn't.

Games have the potential to be an incredible media. Over the years they've steadily built up a reputation, from being 'just for kids' to now being for anyone of any age. Originally they were only about stupid plumbers and fast, talking animals. Now? Now games can be about anything from building and racing your own cars to fishing to being a citizen in medieval times. Simulations to fighting games to futuristic racers to re-enactments of history.

Gaming had almost become serious, almost been looked at as as much of a normal media as movies or music, where you can make a game about absolutely anything, provided you have the money to make it happen.

And now, Nintendo is prooving that gaming isn't ready for that. That we should keep making games about plumbers and hedgehogs and stupid androgynous emo idiots.

The main thing, the final, main thing I hate about the Wii, is that it very much has the potential to ruin the progress that gaming has made over the last 15+ years. To turn it from the open-source media that it was so close to becoming, back into a toy made only for children. When I first heard about the Wii, I half expected to see it not in the electronics department of a store, but instead among the RC cars and Tamagochi clones.

By the sound of things though, when the PS4 rocks up, ALL consoles will be out of the Electronics department.

And to all the people ranting about 'virtual reality': Not only is the Wii about as close to virtual reality as the Point Blank arcade game, but if anything, it'll SLOW the production of actual VR because developers are too busy adjusting to all these stupid other gimmicks.

... Does it help that the Wii's graphics are just a Gamecube without smooth rendering, making it look like PSP graphics? No, no it does not.

If you buy the Wii, as far as I'm concerned you may as well be the Osama Bin Laden of the gaming world... Only, retarded.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/profile/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=m-100-24722093&user=Shinkada&print=1
 

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Re: Why "my friend" hates the Wii he bought...
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2006, 05:33:25 PM »
nerd fight!
 

GangstaBoogy

Re: Why "my friend" hates the Wii he bought...
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2006, 05:37:45 PM »
I refuse to read all that. Summarize it and holla back.
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7even

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Re: Why "my friend" hates the Wii he bought...
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2006, 05:57:17 PM »
damn, that was a very good article.
Cause I don't care where I belong no more
What we share or not I will ignore
And I won't waste my time fitting in
Cause I don't think contrast is a sin
No, it's not a sin
 

Trauma-san

Re: Why "my friend" hates the Wii he bought...
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2006, 08:33:59 PM »
blah blah blah  I didn't read any of that.  Did your friend actually buy one?  Why did you name your thread the same as mine?
 

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Re: Why "my friend" hates the Wii he bought...
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2006, 08:47:23 PM »
um... i love 360...xbox360 is actually lot better than wii.
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mrtonguetwista

Re: Why "my friend" hates the Wii he bought...
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2006, 09:15:36 PM »
Why did you name your thread the same as mine?
lol

 

Don Seer

Re: Why "my friend" hates the Wii he bought...
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2006, 12:01:28 AM »
NIks being an attention whore.. he's never posted in this section till he could cause some trouble..


this Shinkada dude's article was really called...

The Final Argument Why I Hate the Wii.


and as a site.. gamespot has been anti-wii in a major way.. payola or something.. its fact..there is already a big backlash against gamespot due to the way they've slagged off wii games
« Last Edit: November 24, 2006, 12:04:56 AM by Seer - San »
 

Now_Im_Not_Banned

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Re: Why "my friend" hates the Wii he bought...
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2006, 12:25:41 AM »
^^No, I was posting it to neutralize the Wii dickriding on this board...PeACe
 

Don Seer

Re: Why "my friend" hates the Wii he bought...
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2006, 02:15:21 AM »
thats called "flame baiting"

how come when wii news is posted the ps3 fanboys or traumas dickride club post anti wii stuff?



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