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A movie by Theo van Gogh and Ayaan Hirsi Ali - "Submission"

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J @ M @ L:
Nationalism = Bullshit

I TO DA GEEZY:
Preach on brother ^

virtuoso:
As is the idea of a loving world power taking care of you "cough" U.N, yeah what a great solution that body is  ::) Of course the point of view on this usually ranges from the naive oh U.N is a great thing to oh the U.N just need some reforms. I find it perpelxing that many still have not grasped that these reforms are designed in such a way that they make things worse, they centralise power ever more.

I TO DA GEEZY:
Centralization of power is bad for democracy it's a known fact. You got that right man. However, there are many different ways to centralize power and the so called "pulling out the National Card" is one of these ways. Seriously man, how many times have we heared the phrase "It is within our national interest" coming out of traps of state leaders before ordering atrocities to take place. How was that pro-democracy?- We all know those r attempts to reach consensus with regard to cold hearted murder...

virtuoso:
Politicians will always do whatever what it takes to brainwash the people listening into being able to justify their actions. I agree that when people hear cathphrases like "national interest" there becomes a degree of acceptance towards whatever the intention or aim. Mainly because people evoke national interest with being of benefit to all citizens within that nation, your example though is an example of spin and heavy spin is used in many instances. However using the illusion of nationalism as the justification, is just one vehicle used to steer a message.

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