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let me simplify, the AM/SHADY/GUNIT camp will put all the effort it takes to make One classic record into seven different discs that they release that year so they can make the bottom line. So they'll release say...4 albums out with 3 dope cuts each...I'm just gonna download those dope cuts and put 'em on an album together and not buiy anything. If they put the 3 dope cuts from each of the 4 albums on one 12 track solid disc, I'll buy that shit...they're not doing that, every year record sales get lower cause 19 million motherfuckers grew up to be just like me; more and more people listen to rap all the time and less and less people buy it all the time to the point where new fans feel like that's how it is and how it always will be, hence how huge mixtapes have been recently. This means everyone at the top is responsible for making it so their people have a viable means to eat. Nas is the only rapper taking this reponsibility seriously. it's ridiculous how much paralels i'm seeing between the rap game and politics right now. it's just like old ass politicians not doing shit about social security cause it won't affect them...sad, that while white people have this hierarchical structure with the fate of a nation while black people do it with the fate of your headphones...damn, vote Obama for the love o' god.Anyway, If AM put this effort into like 3 discs(one per label) instead the records would be solid, would be classic. it's dispersion, diffusion and it cheats the fans and it's why people don't buy albums. No one's saying they're talentless, they're just not doing what they should be doing on an artistic level.-T
^^ They ended the show before he started.Cam: "You can shut down Diplomat projects?"50: "Cam you really want that?"Cam: "Nah...I was just askin"lol
Is this dubcc or an all girl high school?
So I'm gonna come out saying, "I got love for 50 Cent but G Unit records is not a good place for artists! I can shut down any record coming out of G Unit."By saying that, should I expect 50 to call in and be cool? I just shitted on him, his skills as a CEO and his business. But he should call in and talk casual right?
after some thinking time, my thoughts:50 isn't necessarily running everything, but he is more than styles and cam'ron. I was talking with some dudes I got to Cal State san bernardino with, these couple african american dudes I smoke blunts with who are from rialto( a ghetto-er part of the IE) where I grew up and these dudes are your average west coast hip hop fans, no access to dubcnn or anything, just some rap fans you know? some ear to the street kind of cats and I was tellin' them about the dre compilations I'm making and I said something to the effect of "I'm making a snoop break up to make up with all dre produced snoop shit produced since doggystyle and an eminem completely dre produced record and even though I don't like him, I'm gonna do a 50 cent one cause he has so much dre produced stuff" and these dudes immediately said "yeah, that's why he's running shit. anyone could run shit with that much dre tracks." I said "if that's so, what happened to knoc turn al" and dude says "the streets got his shit MONTHS before his album dropped. wasn't NOBODY trying to buy that old ass album when it came out"......even the average rap fan off the streets sees that 50 ain't nearly as formidable without dre. which is my whole issue with him, it's not that 50's the whackes out, he ain't the whackest but dre is producing him and his people instead of the classic people and new west coast people that we want to see him produce.-T
Quote from: SGV on February 02, 2007, 10:08:00 AMQuote from: Timbo the king on February 02, 2007, 09:51:52 AM^^ You wouldnt be mad if you were on radio giving the person props and the same person starts yelling at you and not giving you a chance to speak back ?Both had valid reason to be pissed at eachother but the conversation sucked.LMAO @ Giving the person props. What were you listening to? Yeah sure, 50 said he liked Cam and that Jimmy was doing his thing, but he was also dissing the label they're on saying that it's the Graveyard. Talking all kinds of shit... THEN had the nerve to say he can shut shit down over there. So, if I'm Cam, I'm thinking "does this dude think he can shut me down?" Of course Cam ain't gonna let 50 talk, he already said what he had to say. 50 had no reason to be upset at Cam, relax...50s been saying for the past 3 months how he likes Jim Jones, what he did with Balling was great, how a Dispet GUnit collabo might happen...And your second argument is what I said already. Cam had a completley valid reason to be pissed BUT he shouldve let 50 speak too. Thats why its no wonder 50 was pissed. Cam was cuttinh him off.
Quote from: Timbo the king on February 02, 2007, 09:51:52 AM^^ You wouldnt be mad if you were on radio giving the person props and the same person starts yelling at you and not giving you a chance to speak back ?Both had valid reason to be pissed at eachother but the conversation sucked.LMAO @ Giving the person props. What were you listening to? Yeah sure, 50 said he liked Cam and that Jimmy was doing his thing, but he was also dissing the label they're on saying that it's the Graveyard. Talking all kinds of shit... THEN had the nerve to say he can shut shit down over there. So, if I'm Cam, I'm thinking "does this dude think he can shut me down?" Of course Cam ain't gonna let 50 talk, he already said what he had to say. 50 had no reason to be upset at Cam, relax...
^^ You wouldnt be mad if you were on radio giving the person props and the same person starts yelling at you and not giving you a chance to speak back ?Both had valid reason to be pissed at eachother but the conversation sucked.
I said that he has the right to be upset but if you have balls you let the OTHER side speak too.SGV you know all this crap behind the scenes, Im not sure but werent Cam and Jim Jones dissing Koch just few weeks ago ?
Quote from: Timbo the king on February 02, 2007, 02:17:41 PMI said that he has the right to be upset but if you have balls you let the OTHER side speak too.SGV you know all this crap behind the scenes, Im not sure but werent Cam and Jim Jones dissing Koch just few weeks ago ?What could Fif have said? He had already spoke. He said what he said and Cam replied. No need to let dude reply because there's nothing more to say.A lot of people are mad at Koch, just like Lil Jon and them were mad at TVT. They aren't paying people on time. That's why Cam was saying he was there picking up money that was owed to them. These Major Independents are all like that. So in that sense, they're bad... But once that check is cut, it's a wrap. Think about how much Jimmy sold. Even if they don't get $7 a record, let's say they get $3.50Thats still $1,050,000. Take out taxes and what not, it's still a decent pay check. If Banks is getting something like $.03, he barely got $9,000. So, what would you rather do? Granted, not everyone is going to hit Jimmy Blanco's numbers, but the potential is there.If Koch would pay people on time, better believe they would have a lot of people trying to get a deal there. But, just like Lil Jon is still on TVT, once they cut the check, everyone's happy.
Quote from: SGV on February 02, 2007, 02:50:46 PMQuote from: Timbo the king on February 02, 2007, 02:17:41 PMI said that he has the right to be upset but if you have balls you let the OTHER side speak too.SGV you know all this crap behind the scenes, Im not sure but werent Cam and Jim Jones dissing Koch just few weeks ago ?What could Fif have said? He had already spoke. He said what he said and Cam replied. No need to let dude reply because there's nothing more to say.A lot of people are mad at Koch, just like Lil Jon and them were mad at TVT. They aren't paying people on time. That's why Cam was saying he was there picking up money that was owed to them. These Major Independents are all like that. So in that sense, they're bad... But once that check is cut, it's a wrap. Think about how much Jimmy sold. Even if they don't get $7 a record, let's say they get $3.50Thats still $1,050,000. Take out taxes and what not, it's still a decent pay check. If Banks is getting something like $.03, he barely got $9,000. So, what would you rather do? Granted, not everyone is going to hit Jimmy Blanco's numbers, but the potential is there.If Koch would pay people on time, better believe they would have a lot of people trying to get a deal there. But, just like Lil Jon is still on TVT, once they cut the check, everyone's happy.do you really think banks is gettin .03 on g-unit? 50 already told cam, if you want to talk like that banks made more money.
[A lot of people are mad at Koch, just like Lil Jon and them were mad at TVT. They aren't paying people on time. That's why Cam was saying he was there picking up money that was owed to them. These Major Independents are all like that. So in that sense, they're bad... But once that check is cut, it's a wrap. Think about how much Jimmy sold. Even if they don't get $7 a record, let's say they get $3.50Thats still $1,050,000. Take out taxes and what not, it's still a decent pay check. If Banks is getting something like $.03, he barely got $9,000. So, what would you rather do? Granted, not everyone is going to hit Jimmy Blanco's numbers, but the potential is there.