THE REASON WHY THE SOUTH IS ON TOP AND NOT THE WEST or EAST

[BigG]

4 1 thing most u pplz dont no what the fuk ur talkin bout....when u talk about the west its not just L.A u ppl act like what rappers are doin down there is what the west coast is....i mean lets be honest most artist from southern cali are traped in that 96 sound thats why they aint doin shit....niggaz need to step they shit up....and when u say the west aint got its own sound ur talkin bout so.cal cuz the bay always  stay with there own style and sound...plus the music scene in the bay is constintly changing and evolving so most them satements that were made were made with a narrow ass view of the west....cum on cali got the most diverse hiphop scene in the world thats why its the best who the fuk really wants the west coast to have 1 sound thats shits boring....

Ur lucky that when the west was on top, we called it the whole westcoast, it was California that was on top.
We could have easily been saying that SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WAS ON TOP.
Without Southern california this topic would have never been made and california would have never been on top.

And most people in cali dont like hyphy except only for the bay.  It sounds exactly like crunk.  Nobody gonna pick up a hyphy cd.

[mrtonguetwista]

ROFL @ europeans screaming "fucc tha south" 

lmao

[Tanjential]

4 1 thing most u pplz dont no what the fuk ur talkin bout....when u talk about the west its not just L.A u ppl act like what rappers are doin down there is what the west coast is....i mean lets be honest most artist from southern cali are traped in that 96 sound thats why they aint doin shit....niggaz need to step they shit up....and when u say the west aint got its own sound ur talkin bout so.cal cuz the bay always  stay with there own style and sound...plus the music scene in the bay is constintly changing and evolving so most them satements that were made were made with a narrow ass view of the west....cum on cali got the most diverse hiphop scene in the world thats why its the best who the fuk really wants the west coast to have 1 sound thats shits boring....

Ur lucky that when the west was on top, we called it the whole westcoast, it was California that was on top.
We could have easily been saying that SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WAS ON TOP.
Without Southern california this topic would have never been made and california would have never been on top.

And most people in cali dont like hyphy except only for the bay.  It sounds exactly like crunk.  Nobody gonna pick up a hyphy cd.

too short was blowing up around the same time as N.W.A

and have you listened to Mac Dre? Dude has classic material. You can't really speak on hyphy unless you're familiar with Mac Dre's work and once you are familiar with his work you probaby wouldn't speak so negatively on it.

-T

[BigG]

too short was blowing up around the same time as N.W.A

and have you listened to Mac Dre? Dude has classic material. You can't really speak on hyphy unless you're familiar with Mac Dre's work and once you are familiar with his work you probaby wouldn't speak so negatively on it.

I aint trying to speak negatively. But i never listened to Mac Dre.  I know Too short is big but i never really liked him but im not trying to say he sucks or nothing.

Im just saying that Southern California was a whole movement that was from here to New York.  Mac Dre wasnt really known and alot of people didnt hear about him till after his death.

Hyphy has never and will probably never be as big as what southern california was during 90's.
I like some hyphy songs.  I aint hating on hyphy.  But it sounds too much like crunk to me.
And what happened to the movement anyway?

[Tanjential]

Mac Dre used to be the shit when he was fucking with Khayree. Anybody knows what went down between them? Mac Dre clowned Khayree bad after he left YBB.
Khayree;
www.youngblackbrotha.com
Khayree's resume;
www.discogs.com/Khayree

do you have any of the disses mac dre did? my friend and i were discussing the other day how we noticed mac dre never got involved in beefs or anything like that. I'd like to hear him being dissed/dissing if it exists.

which albums are you saying are dope with khayree and which do you think are not dope that are without him? I'd be very interested in your opinion on this.

too short was blowing up around the same time as N.W.A

and have you listened to Mac Dre? Dude has classic material. You can't really speak on hyphy unless you're familiar with Mac Dre's work and once you are familiar with his work you probaby wouldn't speak so negatively on it.

I aint trying to speak negatively. But i never listened to Mac Dre.  I know Too short is big but i never really liked him but im not trying to say he sucks or nothing.

Im just saying that Southern California was a whole movement that was from here to New York.  Mac Dre wasnt really known and alot of people didnt hear about him till after his death.

Hyphy has never and will probably never be as big as what southern california was during 90's.
I like some hyphy songs.  I aint hating on hyphy.  But it sounds too much like crunk to me.
And what happened to the movement anyway?

not saying mac dre got as big as so cal or anything, just saying Mac dre's music is a testament to the quality and distinctiveness and hyphy.

get any of  the following on your hard drive or your cd case:

it's not what you say it's how you say it

al boo boo
ronald dregan:dreganomics
genie of the lamp

mac dre is as good of a rapper throughout his career as snoop in his prime. i said it.

peace-T

[Tanjential]

I have never heard Khayree talking bad about Mac Dre,but Mac Dre did a couple of diss tracks towards Khayree. Yes,I got these tracks,but it has been years since I gave those tracks a spin,so I don't remember which album they're on. I got so many Mac Dre albums/compilation that I mix them all up. I got some friends that are crazy into Mac Dre,so I could ask them.
I remember that Dubee was also featured on one of the diss tracks towards Khayree.

that's crazy, I'ma look into that.

and Big G, I do see your point about how the LA rappers that blew the fuck up in the early mid 90's were gracious in giving the props to the whole state and not just claiming so cal. -T

[MediumL]

I hope the west doesnt go down the Hyphy route cause to me, hyphy music is boring although i understand heres a culture around it now. Plus stop looking to dre to bring a new west coast sound. Doesn't the west coast have another producer thats inventive enough to create his own sound other than Dre? Maybe thats the difference...

We have to look to the new West Coast. If Dre or Quik or Battlecat invent some new sound for the west coast then great but they've done their part, its time for new cats to step up to the bar.

[Tanjential]

I hope the west doesnt go down the Hyphy route cause to me, hyphy music is boring although i understand heres a culture around it now. Plus stop looking to dre to bring a new west coast sound. Doesn't the west coast have another producer thats inventive enough to create his own sound other than Dre? Maybe thats the difference...

We have to look to the new West Coast. If Dre or Quik or Battlecat invent some new sound for the west coast then great but they've done their part, its time for new cats to step up to the bar.

yes but until they do who will we look to: quik, dre, battlecat. shit, if you're just a wested head you're still gonna look to daz/soopa and warren just for some heat when you can get it.

-T

[Iliveinthefuture]

I hope the west doesnt go down the Hyphy route cause to me, hyphy music is boring although i understand heres a culture around it now. Plus stop looking to dre to bring a new west coast sound. Doesn't the west coast have another producer thats inventive enough to create his own sound other than Dre? Maybe thats the difference...

We have to look to the new West Coast. If Dre or Quik or Battlecat invent some new sound for the west coast then great but they've done their part, its time for new cats to step up to the bar.

exactly!
in so-cal there are already some cats who are bringin something fresh to the table like Rome (Omar cruz's producer) Jim Gittum (Crooked i's producer) Dj Khalil, Dae One (Bishop Lamont's producer), 1500 or nothin,Terrace martin, XL Middleton, Tha bizness etc...but you know what?
until there are fags like tanjibility who only check tracks produced by warren g dre or quik ( ) these new talented cats will never make it!

and please don't come back saying that daz warren g battlecat or quik are still the shit....most of their beats are HOT GARBAGE nowadays 

[Tanjential]

I hope the west doesnt go down the Hyphy route cause to me, hyphy music is boring although i understand heres a culture around it now. Plus stop looking to dre to bring a new west coast sound. Doesn't the west coast have another producer thats inventive enough to create his own sound other than Dre? Maybe thats the difference...

We have to look to the new West Coast. If Dre or Quik or Battlecat invent some new sound for the west coast then great but they've done their part, its time for new cats to step up to the bar.

exactly!
in so-cal there are already some cats who are bringin something fresh to the table like Rome (Omar cruz's producer) Jim Gittum (Crooked i's producer) Dj Khalil, Dae One (Bishop Lamont's producer), 1500 or nothin,Terrace martin, XL Middleton, Tha bizness etc...but you know what?
until there are fags like tanjibility who only check tracks produced by warren g dre or quik ( ) these new talented cats will never make it!

and please don't come back saying that daz warren g battlecat or quik are still the shit....most of their beats are HOT GARBAGE nowadays 

Hey homey when I can pick up ANY of those cats shit at the local music store I will.  In the meantime there's warren g, quik, battlecat, and dre. -T

[Klue]

West need Funk.

[Tanjential]

thanks, but if he had split from Khayree from that point on then i believe he was still great after. You don't consider genie of the lamp or al boo boo as classic in league? Sorry if my phrasing is sloppy I'm pretty high but I'm basically asking your thoughts on those albums, cause while I think Khayree's work with mac dre is great I feel he's done work that's of the same caliber without him as well.

-T

[Noname]

The thing is why so many people are hating on the south is, because they feel the south doesnt bring anything new to the game. And thats true, but you can say the same thing about the west. But the major difference between this is, when the West was coming on top, with the gangbang music, people actually thought these rappers were for real. Cuz you had the riots, so many people dying over there cuz of gang violence. So when these rappers were coming up like NWA and Ice T etc, people actually thought they were telling the truth, and they were gangbangers themselves. And that they were having a real reason for being this violent.

I think thats the major difference between the south and the west. Cuz people know when they see these southern rapper on the TV, that its all fake. It was the same when the west was on top, but at the time people believed them. And when you see these southern rappers on the TV now it all seems so fake. Thats why you got so many people saying the south stole this and that. Cuz you would think after all these years after the west has beeen on top, they could come up with a little more creativity.

[Juronimo]

Guys, it has always been about the party. It's been that way since the 70's. Sugar Hill Gang came out with a party song. Bam dropped Planet Rock in '82 that was a huge party song. Then you have Run DMC making several party songs like You Be Illin', Tricky, etc. Erick B and Rakim blew up with party music, I Know You Got Soul, Paid In Full.

NWA and Public Enemy became major forces due to their popularity on the streets and with the heads but who blew up the biggest commercially? People like MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice and to a lesser extent, Young MC and Digital Underground because they made party music. Gangsta rap was becoming a force but it was when Dr. Dre made gangsta rap party music with the use of G-Funk that it became larger than life. East coast heads like Black Moon, Wu-Tang, Nas and Mobb Deep were kicking east coast gangsta shit and it was popular but when Biggie made east coast gangsta shit into party music with Juicy, Big Poppa, One More Chance, etc, the east coast came back with a vengenace. Jay-Z and Nas adopted the same formula for their 96 releases and Puffy took it to extremes when Biggie past. The South blew up with Cash Money and No-Limit using the same theme, party music and that continues to this day. The west coast's brief resurgence from '98 - '02 was based on party music being made by Dre, Quik and Battlecat.

The south is big because they're following the same formula that's been used since Sugar Hill Gang.