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Re: A Non-Laker Fan's Perspective Of Nash Possibly Winning A 3rd Straight MVP.
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2007, 07:57:52 PM »
For those of you who don't really watch basketball and mainly read ESPN articles and box score stats, here's an interesting perspective (which I happen to share) about why it would be ludicrous for Nash to win ANOTHER MVP... And this guy is far from a Laker fan (in fact, he hates the Lakers), so you muthafuckaz can't say this shit is biased like ya'll do when your backs are against the wall:

As far as Nash for a 3rd straight MVP... He shouldn't have got it last year, and he definitely does not deserve a 3rd one. His gaudy stats are purely the result of Phoenix' system.

Where I stopped reading.  "It's system, it's the system", horrible argument.

Then you're ignorant...How is that a bad argument?...So you're saying a system that encourages you to shoot within the first 7 seconds of the shot-clock doesn't inflate stats drastically? LMAO
 

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Re: A Non-Laker Fan's Perspective Of Nash Possibly Winning A 3rd Straight MVP.
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2007, 07:59:19 PM »
Steve Nash, Suns
Enough already Steve. You've proven your point.

Nash's impact on the Suns has been front and center the past two weeks.

With the two-time MVP sporting designer clothes instead of his uniform because of a sore right shoulder, Phoenix went out and lost three straight games. Over the past three seasons, the Suns are 151-49 when he plays and 4-12 when he doesn't. This season they are just 2-4 without him.

Critics said that Nash is a product of the Suns wide-open system. That couldn't be any further from the truth. Nash is the system.[/u]

Last I checked, the Suns still trot two All-Stars, Amare Stoudemire and Shawn Marion, on to the court each night. That should be good enough to beat the Hawks and Bulls at home and the Sonics on the road.

Without Nash, it wasn't.

Nash is due to return to the lineup against the Clippers tonight. That is a good thing. He has some catching up to do.



Without Nash, the Suns don't have a valid point guard who can make plays...Nash isn't the system, D'Antonio is...PeACe
 

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Re: A Non-Laker Fan's Perspective Of Nash Possibly Winning A 3rd Straight MVP.
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2007, 08:53:09 PM »
Hey NIK all im going to say about this shit is if Kobe didnt win last year he will never win it.I hate to say but its true.
 

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Re: A Non-Laker Fan's Perspective Of Nash Possibly Winning A 3rd Straight MVP.
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2007, 10:37:04 PM »
Then you're ignorant...How is that a bad argument?...So you're saying a system that encourages you to shoot within the first 7 seconds of the shot-clock doesn't inflate stats drastically? LMAO

I can make an argument too that the "system" that Dirk/Kobe/etc. is in inflates their stats.
 

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Re: A Non-Laker Fan's Perspective Of Nash Possibly Winning A 3rd Straight MVP.
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2007, 10:41:03 PM »
Dirk deserves it and will probably get it if Dallas keeps playing and winning like this...
 

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Re: A Non-Laker Fan's Perspective Of Nash Possibly Winning A 3rd Straight MVP.
« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2007, 11:55:16 PM »
Then you're ignorant...How is that a bad argument?...So you're saying a system that encourages you to shoot within the first 7 seconds of the shot-clock doesn't inflate stats drastically? LMAO

I can make an argument too that the "system" that Dirk/Kobe/etc. is in inflates their stats.


Do you honestly believe it's comparable, or are you just playing a joke here? Phoenix runs a fast pace game with minimal defense, where they are encouraged to constantly jack up shots, causing them to average a ton more shots off a ton more assists with a ton more rebounds. Every team that plays them and plays to their tempo gets a major increase in stats, this is proven...It's no coincidence that a Nick Collison averages 25.5 points and 18 rebounds against Phoenix. It's also no coincidence that lots of players have career years in Phoenix...Sorry dude, but a half court offense with real defensive sets is not comparable to what Phoenix is doing...PeACe
 

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Re: A Non-Laker Fan's Perspective Of Nash Possibly Winning A 3rd Straight MVP.
« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2007, 05:24:16 AM »
I dont think Knuckles really knows much about basketball, LMAO at comparing PHx system to the Lakers, haha what a moron
 

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Re: A Non-Laker Fan's Perspective Of Nash Possibly Winning A 3rd Straight MVP.
« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2007, 06:11:49 AM »
He's Canadian

= Nash supporter.
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What we share or not I will ignore
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Cause I don't think contrast is a sin
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Re: A Non-Laker Fan's Perspective Of Nash Possibly Winning A 3rd Straight MVP.
« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2007, 06:44:00 AM »
I'm not sure what the MVP stands for these days, is it the most valuable player in the league, or the most valuable to your team, I think Dirk is more valuable to his team
 

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Re: A Non-Laker Fan's Perspective Of Nash Possibly Winning A 3rd Straight MVP.
« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2007, 07:34:16 AM »
I'm not even saying that Nash deserves the MVP award but you can't discredit him because of the system he plays in.  If he played on other team he might be forced to play better defense and thus you couldn't use that "he plays no defense" argument.

I dont think Knuckles really knows much about basketball, LMAO at comparing PHx system to the Lakers, haha what a moron

Learn to read cupcake, I never compared the Suns' system to the Lakers'.
 

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Re: A Non-Laker Fan's Perspective Of Nash Possibly Winning A 3rd Straight MVP.
« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2007, 11:34:17 AM »
Dirk and Kobe both deserve it over Nash

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Re: A Non-Laker Fan's Perspective Of Nash Possibly Winning A 3rd Straight MVP.
« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2007, 11:57:55 AM »
i dont see kobe taking charges like nash does in the paint. that lil white boy gets knocked around and takes it
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Re: A Non-Laker Fan's Perspective Of Nash Possibly Winning A 3rd Straight MVP.
« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2007, 12:04:13 PM »
I'm not even saying that Nash deserves the MVP award but you can't discredit him because of the system he plays in.  If he played on other team he might be forced to play better defense and thus you couldn't use that "he plays no defense" argument.

I dont think Knuckles really knows much about basketball, LMAO at comparing PHx system to the Lakers, haha what a moron

Learn to read cupcake, I never compared the Suns' system to the Lakers'.


Nash has always been a terrible defender...He doesn't have the foot-work or the physical attributes to stay in front of his opponent, which is why opposing point guards blow right by him 99% of the time...I'm not discrediting him because of the system he plays in, I think he's good, I just don't think he's near an MVP caliber player...Do you deny that he's a 2nd option on a team like Dallas or even the Lakers? Shit, I've said it in the past, he's not even the best on his own team...Put him in Kobe's situation, and lets see how amazing he really is.
 

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Re: A Non-Laker Fan's Perspective Of Nash Possibly Winning A 3rd Straight MVP.
« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2007, 12:04:54 PM »
i dont see kobe taking charges like nash does in the paint. that lil white boy gets knocked around and takes it

Kobe doesn't need to take charges, he actually knows how to play defense...LOL
 

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Re: A Non-Laker Fan's Perspective Of Nash Possibly Winning A 3rd Straight MVP.
« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2007, 12:07:06 PM »
i dont see kobe taking charges like nash does in the paint. that lil white boy gets knocked around and takes it

Kobe doesn't need to take charges, he actually knows how to play defense...LOL
im a big fan of players giving up they body and taking a charge (no homo)
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