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Elevz:

--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on February 28, 2007, 05:19:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: Elevz Is Fuckin' Serious About This! on February 28, 2007, 03:21:23 PM ---To be really fair, the author seems a bit off by simply blaming rap music for this. It seems to have become a property of the entire culture to simply cry about all injustice they suffer from...

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I don't think he simply blamed rap music.

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Well, to me, it looks like it. And I quote:


--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on February 25, 2007, 04:30:33 PM ---The Black Ku Klux Klan shows up in full force and does its best to ruin our good time. Instead of wearing white robes and white hoods, the new KKK has now taken to wearing white Ts and calling themselves gangsta rappers, gangbangers and posse members.

Just like the White KKK of the 1940s and '50s, we fear them, keep our eyes lowered, shut our mouths and pray they don't bother us.

Our fear makes them stronger. Our silence empowers them. Our lack of courage lets them define who we are. Our excuse-making for their behavior increases their influence and enables them to recruit more freely.

We sing their racist songs, gleefully call ourselves the N-word, hype their celebrity and get upset when white people whisper concerns about our sanity.

And whenever someone publicly states that the Black KKK is terrorizing black people, black neighborhoods, black social events and glorifying a negative, self-destructive lifestyle, we deny and blame the Man.

I don't want to do it anymore.
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J @ M @ L:
"gangsta rappers"  and  "racist songs"

That's what he mentions, but not even exclusively... he just kinda threw them in a list of examples... that can't be considered him "simply blaming rap music"... in that case, that would've been a more significant/major point of his article, which it obviously wasn't. You know what I mean?

*Z* - The Queen of Dubcc:

--- Quote from: Elevz Is Fuckin' Serious About This! on March 01, 2007, 03:58:54 AM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on February 28, 2007, 05:19:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: Elevz Is Fuckin' Serious About This! on February 28, 2007, 03:21:23 PM ---To be really fair, the author seems a bit off by simply blaming rap music for this. It seems to have become a property of the entire culture to simply cry about all injustice they suffer from...

--- End quote ---

I don't think he simply blamed rap music.

--- End quote ---

Well, to me, it looks like it. And I quote:


--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on February 25, 2007, 04:30:33 PM ---The Black Ku Klux Klan shows up in full force and does its best to ruin our good time. Instead of wearing white robes and white hoods, the new KKK has now taken to wearing white Ts and calling themselves gangsta rappers, gangbangers and posse members.

Just like the White KKK of the 1940s and '50s, we fear them, keep our eyes lowered, shut our mouths and pray they don't bother us.

Our fear makes them stronger. Our silence empowers them. Our lack of courage lets them define who we are. Our excuse-making for their behavior increases their influence and enables them to recruit more freely.

We sing their racist songs, gleefully call ourselves the N-word, hype their celebrity and get upset when white people whisper concerns about our sanity.

And whenever someone publicly states that the Black KKK is terrorizing black people, black neighborhoods, black social events and glorifying a negative, self-destructive lifestyle, we deny and blame the Man.

I don't want to do it anymore.
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well this is true, there are racist rap songs, check out dead prez for example, it definitely contributes to a certain extent, thats why he mentions it, but he didnt blame rap music overall in this article.

Elevz:

--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on March 01, 2007, 11:54:41 AM ---"gangsta rappers"  and  "racist songs"

That's what he mentions, but not even exclusively... he just kinda threw them in a list of examples... that can't be considered him "simply blaming rap music"... in that case, that would've been a more significant/major point of his article, which it obviously wasn't. You know what I mean?

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Yeah, I see what you mean there. Perhaps the formulation I chose was a bit off, but basically that's what it comes down to:


--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on February 25, 2007, 04:30:33 PM ---The Black Ku Klux Klan shows up in full force and does its best to ruin our good time. Instead of wearing white robes and white hoods, the new KKK has now taken to wearing white Ts and calling themselves gangsta rappers, gangbangers and posse members.
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In the article, the author is actually talking about a cultural development: random young blacks crying out against what they experience as injustice.
But how imposing is the influence 'gangbangers and posse members' have on the view points of a whole culture? That's minimum. The author has a good reason to simplify the causes of this behavior, because gangstarappers are actually influential, whereas 'gangbangers and posse members' purely exercise local 'terrorism'. Their influence isn't even comparable. And the author really does simplify the causes, as he does go on about gangstarap, while leaving the gangbangers and posse members behind:


--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on February 25, 2007, 04:30:33 PM ---We sing their racist songs, gleefully call ourselves the N-word, hype their celebrity and get upset when white people whisper concerns about our sanity.

And whenever someone publicly states that the Black KKK is terrorizing black people, black neighborhoods, black social events and glorifying a negative, self-destructive lifestyle, we deny and blame the Man.
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And is he right? I don't even know - but I do sense some truth in his words. The way the icons of young black people use their influential powers is usually far from role model-esque. Yet they are viewed that way.

eS El Duque:
great read. thanks.

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