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How do you guys judge the success of America's adventure into Iraq?
Suffice:
--- Quote from: YGZ ZUSss on March 03, 2007, 06:23:23 AM ---I still think the US, has a strong chance of winning in Iraq.
What Cheney said was reasonable: 'the US public will never allow a withdrawal'. Because the US public will not vote to lose a war.
And the problem for the Democrats is that they will never be able to justify a withdrawal from Iraq to the public (unless they launch a huge 9/11 truth campaign....an outlandish notion of course ??? ).
It will be a win, because:
A) Got that oil, baby,
and
B) Got them military bases on prime stategic real estate.
Iran however, dosn't look like its going to bend over and start picking cotton anytime soon.
--- End quote ---
Let's make a definition of a win in Iraq. What would a win constitute?
Elevz:
Suffice, do you consider yourself anarchist? Just asking, because you seem to feel such strong resent against the government.
You really did bring some interesting points into this topic. However I find it hard to really judge the situation, simply because we don't know what's going on, or what has been going on. We can't possibly know the real motives for this war (after all, we don't know the true goals of the US government) and that makes it a tough situation to judge.
Oil? Is that it? Capturing sources with enough oil to maintain the absurdity's of life in America for at least a couple more years? I'm not so sure about any of that. After all, the US government has shown with 9/11 how much they really care about the civilians. They killed thousands of people, just to stir up a deep fear inside the people, and to keep them divided. To maintain power, that is. Not because they actually care about the well being of the nation.
I'm not nearly done thinking over how people maintain power. I guess it's somewhere in between keeping them dependant and satisfied at the same time. 9/11 did just that, by showcasing how much the US government cares about their nation. Firefighters became heroes, troups were sent out to serve the bigger cause of securing the nation.
At the same time, it is really odd how all of this evidence against the government has leaked into the main stream media.
1) You're not telling me the US government is that insecure when it comes to such huge issues. How did all of this info leak?
2) How did all of these documentaries make their way through the usually heavily controlled media?
In other words... Are they consciously trying to make us feel oppressed? Are they consciously depicting themselves as our enemies right now? If so, there might be an extremely big scheme behind all this, and George W. Bush might not be the unintelligent president we usually make him out to be... And that means I really don't have any idea what the fuck they're doing in Iraq, but I know damn well the purpose isn't to create world peace or to secure oil fields for the brave American people.
Noname:
America is never gonna 'win' or'succeed' in Iraq. Cuz these arent the type of people that bow down to a foreign goverment or country. Just read up on the history of the middle east.
Sparegeez:
The Vietnam I mean the Iraqi war is still going on?
Don Rizzle:
basically america can't win ideoligical wars iraq, vietnam and korea etc have proved this. dictators are easy to topple but if people really believe in something they will fight until the last man. americans and europeans too don't hold that same mentality and haven't since the second world war when our very survival depended on it
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