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How terrorists are made...Are you disgusted?
I TO DA GEEZY:
A bunch of extremist right wing crap, inciting hate and so on.
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
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--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on March 14, 2007, 12:58:53 PM ---
1. To make the claim that one group is more "civil" (whatever the fuck that means to you) than the other, is retarded.
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This is just about the dumbest thing I've ever heard you say...
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What makes you think Israelis are more CIVIL than Palestinians? Because you're richer? Because you can bomb their villages and they have to resort to suicide bombing? What is it? Because you have a supposed democracy.... even though Israel is violating international law and illegally occupying Palestinian land, and then imposing a different set of law for Jews and Palestinians there... and I know you don't know what that constitutes due to your lack of knowledge.
If you consider that retarded, it pales in comparison to the dumb, unfounded shit you've spewed all over this thread... which I all addressed and responded to... but you had no reply... and all we get outta you is "I ONLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE VIDEO! PLEASE NO DEBATE! STICK TO THE VIDEO!"
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It comes down to two words...Living conditions. The conditions Palestinians live in UNQUESTIONABLY causes them to be more aggressive, instills more hate, LESS CIVILITY. I dunno why anyone would want to deny that...Your involvment in political matters doesn't change what I know and my understanding of these issues. I've read my share of Israeli AND Palestinian propaganda as well, but I choose to ignore that and only go based on what I SEE...That's what we should do as humans. It would really maxamize our potential...Thats why I say, talk about what you see. If I'm oversimplifying things, are you not overcomplexifying them? Point blank, there's nothing understandable about the video...PeACe
J @ M @ L:
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on March 14, 2007, 12:59:44 PM ---
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--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on March 14, 2007, 12:34:07 PM ---By the way, you keep bringing up Muslim/Jew. If you really think this is about religion, you're sadly mistaken and uninformed. Just as Jews have a problem with extremists, and not Muslims in general... Palestinians/Muslims have a problem with the Israeli government, not Jews. You also forget that there are thousands of Palestinian Christians also suffering the same fate under the illegal Israeli occupation.
People - Muslims, Christians, and Jews - were living very peacefully amongst eachother prior to the the 20th century. Even the first waves of European Jews migrated to Palestine, the people cooperated and helped eachother. Jews set up plantations, and the Palestinian Arabs worked for them. And remember, that people from all over have been moving to Palestine to set up communities there, and you didn't see a problem. The only difference is the Zionists had a political agenda/goal... to displace the Palestinians, and create a country where they'd be the majority on that land. If you were rational, you'd immediately recognize that's the start of the conflict, and would realize it's not justified at all. If you want to say that Jews needed a homeland because of persecution... fine, I'm not one to say they didn't... but what wrong did the Palestinians commit? Did the Palestinians have anything to do with the holocaust? Oh yeah, as the videos I posted show... "God gave you this land"... and that justifies all the atrocities.
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Sorry bro, land gets taken all the time, it never drags out like this though...The land we're living on right now was taken. It's just how the world came to be. Israelis were living in Israel way before it was official land...The land was officially given to us, it's just how shit happens. And you're right, it's not a Jewish-Muslim conflict, but as you can see in the video, the Arabs are obviously making it that way... :-\
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1. "This land we're living on right now was taken".
If that is justified, then so is Palestinian reaction, which shouldn't be a surprise to you.
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Government issues doesn't justify telling kids that your holy scriptures say Jews (A WHOLE RELIGION) are pigs and apes.
You're right, it doesn't. And we all know how much worse it is to call someone a pig or ape than it is to steal their land, bulldoze their homes, kill their families, etc... and I forgot, you don't want to talk about facts or history.. we have to talk about the video only... you don't want to hear anything about the underlying root causes... you only want to hear that it's sickening. You're so rational.
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on March 14, 2007, 12:53:19 PM ---2. "ISRAELIS were living in Israel way before it was official land."
LMFAO... I hope this comment was a joke... there was never such thing as an Israeli prior to 1948. You obviously don't know anything about the history of the conflict, or history in general for that matter.
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No kidding, muthafucka...Of course there was no Israel before 1948. Are you having trouble understanding what I'm saying? I know you're smart, I don't wanna feel like I'm talking to a dumbass now.
LMFAO @ you getting mad at me for your lack of knowledge.
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on March 14, 2007, 12:53:19 PM ---3. "The land was officially given to us, it's just how shit happens"
LMFAO... I thought you admitted that the land was TAKEN... so now you claim it was GIVEN TO YOU?
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This one stood out to me...You've GOTTA be jokin man, right? People TAKE what's GIVEN to them. LOL!!!!!
Are you really that fucking dumb? Fighting a war to take the land = the land being given to you? Wow. LMAO. No wonder you try to argue.. you don't know shit.
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on March 14, 2007, 12:53:19 PM ---4. "And you're right, it's not a Jewish-Muslim conflict, but as you can see in the video, the Arabs are obviously making it that way"
As you can see in the videos I posted, the Jews are too. Just because you have groups of people falling victim to the use of the tool of religion by leaders, doesn't make it the underlying root cause of the conflict.
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I've never witnessed Jews telling thier children that Muslims are bad people, let alone pigs and apes...can you show me this?
Did I say that? I said that Jews, too, are turning this into a Jewish-Muslim conflict. Check the videos for yourself. Or maybe you have... and have no response.
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J @ M @ L:
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on March 14, 2007, 01:21:29 PM --- If I'm oversimplifying things, are you not overcomplexifying them? Point blank, there's nothing understandable about the video...PeACe
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LMFAO. You lost man. I'm sorry. Please stop for what's left of your dignity.
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on March 14, 2007, 01:24:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on March 14, 2007, 01:21:29 PM --- If I'm oversimplifying things, are you not overcomplexifying them? Point blank, there's nothing understandable about the video...PeACe
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LMFAO. You lost man. I'm sorry. Please stop for what's left of your dignity.
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Yea, I lost!..Keep thinking you're above people. You're talking about Palestinian conflicts when I post an Egyptian video of a lady telling a 3 year old the Koran says Jews are evil pigs and apes. Explain how you're not overcomplexifying shit? Get that head out that ass and realize there is no winner...I know you see this as a game, but it's just a discussion.
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