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They were not in Iranian waters according to the British Government?If so you mean the same British Government who helped to created the myth about Iraqis WMD's?I agree with 11'z how the hell is this a "we" issue, we saw how much we counted when the government defied the will of us and sent british soldiers to the slaughter house in Iraq. "We" see what a disregard the government has for human life when they drop thousands of tonnes of depleted uranium, which destroy the bodies of both the troops and the men women and children. The Gulf Of Tonkin has been publicly declassified as a staged event which never happened, the Roosevelt tapes were released in the 90's proving that Pearl Harbour was not an event which came out of the blue. It was provoked by the actions of the u.s military, finally Japan took the bait and the rest is history.By the same token we can't take the iranian's word for it either but who stands to gain the most from this?
Quote from: Don Rizzle on May 10, 2006, 03:16:12 AMiraq would just get annexed by iranThat would be a great solution. If Iran and the majority of Iraqi's are pleased with it, then why shouldn't they do it?
iraq would just get annexed by iran
Quote from: 11z Is Fuckin' Serious About This! on March 28, 2007, 08:08:07 AMQuote from: prominent on March 28, 2007, 08:02:45 AMNot everything has to be a conspiracy or a lie, surely it isn't implausible that Iran is in the wrong and the big bad western government and news agencies are reporting the truth.That is very true, and the information in this news article may very well be true, but I'm just saying I don't really trust the BBC at all. They seem very talented at twisting the truth at times. They'll have to come up with some real proof, and not just some dodgy news article, to convince me on this one.Who exactly does the BBC twist truth against, in your opinion?I know that a few years ago there was a huge scandal were the BBC was putting out untrue allegations against the British government.
Quote from: prominent on March 28, 2007, 08:02:45 AMNot everything has to be a conspiracy or a lie, surely it isn't implausible that Iran is in the wrong and the big bad western government and news agencies are reporting the truth.That is very true, and the information in this news article may very well be true, but I'm just saying I don't really trust the BBC at all. They seem very talented at twisting the truth at times. They'll have to come up with some real proof, and not just some dodgy news article, to convince me on this one.
Not everything has to be a conspiracy or a lie, surely it isn't implausible that Iran is in the wrong and the big bad western government and news agencies are reporting the truth.
Quote from: Jip on March 28, 2007, 08:53:11 AMQuote from: 11z Is Fuckin' Serious About This! on March 28, 2007, 07:36:37 AMQuote from: Jip on March 28, 2007, 06:10:49 AMgames up for iranhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6501555.stm The BBC is known to have spread propaganda before.Believe in none of what you hear and half of what you see!its not propaganda u idiot, this is proof released by UK defence officialsthe BBC and the government arent best of budies anyway so they wouldnt be spreading stuff on their behalfThis is proof of what? Where do you see any proof, because I don't. I'm seeing a lot of talk and some images sketched up. How is that going to prove anything?Plus, I never said it was propaganda. All I said is that the BBC have spread propaganda before, which basically means they just shouldn't be trusted blindly. It doesn't even matter in whose favor this article works, I don't trust it, especially since the "proof" supplied here is paper thin.
Quote from: 11z Is Fuckin' Serious About This! on March 28, 2007, 07:36:37 AMQuote from: Jip on March 28, 2007, 06:10:49 AMgames up for iranhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6501555.stm The BBC is known to have spread propaganda before.Believe in none of what you hear and half of what you see!its not propaganda u idiot, this is proof released by UK defence officialsthe BBC and the government arent best of budies anyway so they wouldnt be spreading stuff on their behalf
Quote from: Jip on March 28, 2007, 06:10:49 AMgames up for iranhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6501555.stm The BBC is known to have spread propaganda before.Believe in none of what you hear and half of what you see!
games up for iranhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6501555.stm
Quote from: Don Rizzle on March 27, 2007, 06:34:10 AMthe nuclear policy of the current iranian government and the subsequent isolation has seen inflation rise significantly, the president himself said being nuclear was more important than having a functioning economy. This means iranian actions have caused international reaction, ven though it may not have been intentional That's some backwards ass logic. What your doing is blaming the victim. Obviously, Iran didn't cut their ownselves off economically and institute sanctions and embargo's upon themselves. They were forced upon them by other nations. But in your backwards form of logic, your going to watch America and Britian try to strangle Iran economically and then shift the blame and say Iran did it themselves.
the nuclear policy of the current iranian government and the subsequent isolation has seen inflation rise significantly, the president himself said being nuclear was more important than having a functioning economy. This means iranian actions have caused international reaction, ven though it may not have been intentional
its not blaming the victim, their economic isolation would've been entirely avoidable that is all. by your logic criminals who are in jail are all victims...............................
Why did you support an illegal war? surely you can not have based that on the fact that a dictator was in power? by the way when you have millions of people marching against a war most of whom have probably never protested in their life and are usually very apathetic, then you know how strong the anti war sentiment was.P.S Even besides that, are you happy that they played us all for a fool by lying about WMD's?
Quote from: Don Rizzle on March 28, 2007, 10:46:23 AMits not blaming the victim, their economic isolation would've been entirely avoidable that is all. by your logic criminals who are in jail are all victims...............................So your saying it would be smart for Iran to do the same thing as Sadaam Hussien and allow in UN Weapons Inspectors, and foriegn spy agents, and everything else? Not seek any weapons for self-defense but get falsely accused of having WMD's anyway, and trust Britian and America? That didn't end up working so well for Sadaam.
Quote from: Shakur Abdul-Latif's Definition Of Hip-Hop..by -Infinite- on March 28, 2007, 10:55:05 AMQuote from: Don Rizzle on March 28, 2007, 10:46:23 AMits not blaming the victim, their economic isolation would've been entirely avoidable that is all. by your logic criminals who are in jail are all victims...............................So your saying it would be smart for Iran to do the same thing as Sadaam Hussien and allow in UN Weapons Inspectors, and foriegn spy agents, and everything else? Not seek any weapons for self-defense but get falsely accused of having WMD's anyway, and trust Britian and America? That didn't end up working so well for Sadaam.no your saying muslims couldn't possibly ever do anything wrong.