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I think it's cool to say this album isn't classic cause it's so popular and fresh in public consciousness. In 15 years when detox has been out for 5 years, there'll be someone talkin' "dude tell my homey detox is the shit" and we'll be like "2001> Detox" or some such shit.forget the videos, forget the buzz, forget the controversy, forget dre as a person, forget that eminems white, forget whatever bullshit you have stigmatized with this record and listen to the album and seriously explain how this isn't classic.ackrite-at times, dre's beats will be 'lacking' to focus on the MC. truly great producers know when to turn the music down so the MC is supported by the beat. hitt RIPs this shit and the guitar line on this is stellar.murder ink-not some shit to chill and coast to like most good west coast music but the bass, drums and Hitt's verse DO the damn thing.pause 4 porno, i could have done without. outside of that, this is a very subtle record but a nigh immaculate one. it's alot more low-key than the first chronic, not as flashy or in your face. alot of laid back intelligent grooves that don't emngage you immediately but that are certainly timeless( for example, when i was 12-13, 'light speed' used to be a skipper. not that I'm older, it's one of my favorites. you know an albums classic when it can grow with you and vice versa. here's 8 years later and i have a new favorite track like it came out a month ago.)AND if you really wanna get qualitative, add up how many classic minutes the chronic is and how many classic minutes 2001 has, and even with your alleged 'filler', 2001 has as much classic material on it as the first chronic. it's a huger album.the lyrics are amazing, it's the topics that are stagnant and even that is intentional.NOT as good as the chronic, i agree. but classic? definitely. changed the game and pleased the west, who else can still do that?I can't believe SIAM is being mentioned in this post. SIAM is a west coast classic, one of my favorites but to expect anyone east of arizona to even consider this as a near classic is laughable. dre used stagnant topics on purpose, whereas Kurupt doesn't know anything else.-T
Quote from: Tanjibility-The Dangerous Crew Movement on March 28, 2007, 03:22:47 PMI think it's cool to say this album isn't classic cause it's so popular and fresh in public consciousness. In 15 years when detox has been out for 5 years, there'll be someone talkin' "dude tell my homey detox is the shit" and we'll be like "2001> Detox" or some such shit.forget the videos, forget the buzz, forget the controversy, forget dre as a person, forget that eminems white, forget whatever bullshit you have stigmatized with this record and listen to the album and seriously explain how this isn't classic.ackrite-at times, dre's beats will be 'lacking' to focus on the MC. truly great producers know when to turn the music down so the MC is supported by the beat. hitt RIPs this shit and the guitar line on this is stellar.murder ink-not some shit to chill and coast to like most good west coast music but the bass, drums and Hitt's verse DO the damn thing.pause 4 porno, i could have done without. outside of that, this is a very subtle record but a nigh immaculate one. it's alot more low-key than the first chronic, not as flashy or in your face. alot of laid back intelligent grooves that don't emngage you immediately but that are certainly timeless( for example, when i was 12-13, 'light speed' used to be a skipper. not that I'm older, it's one of my favorites. you know an albums classic when it can grow with you and vice versa. here's 8 years later and i have a new favorite track like it came out a month ago.)AND if you really wanna get qualitative, add up how many classic minutes the chronic is and how many classic minutes 2001 has, and even with your alleged 'filler', 2001 has as much classic material on it as the first chronic. it's a huger album.the lyrics are amazing, it's the topics that are stagnant and even that is intentional.NOT as good as the chronic, i agree. but classic? definitely. changed the game and pleased the west, who else can still do that?I can't believe SIAM is being mentioned in this post. SIAM is a west coast classic, one of my favorites but to expect anyone east of arizona to even consider this as a near classic is laughable. dre used stagnant topics on purpose, whereas Kurupt doesn't know anything else.-TGreat post. The songs usually mentioned as filler "Murder Ink" and "Ackrite" aren't even wack they just pale in comparison to the rest of the album cause the rest of the album is THAT GOOD and the skits serve their purpose, they aren't there to fill space but to sequence the album, they usually set up as an intro to the next song.
It's definitely overrated - that album has a LOT of filler on it, from the skits to bullshit tracks like 'Ackrite' and 'Murder Ink'.Here's my take - Jay-Z has made albums with less filler, but he's never made an album where the best tracks were as great as the classic cuts on Dre's.[/quo"Jay-Z has made albums with less filler" - Bullshit!!!!! Chronic 2001 is a classic!!! 2001 had a grip of tracks!! They may not all be classic songs but no fillers!!
Shit was such a let down. No way in hell I'd call it a classic.
It's close but not a classic hip-hop album. People call so many albums classics the word loses its meaning.