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Deliverance was a great album. Aaliyah had great pop beats. He gave great beats to Justin years ago. I don't see how people come to think that Timbaland is at his personal peak right now.
Quote from: Je Weet Zelf on April 09, 2007, 10:20:15 AMI know many dislike this album cause it features Nelly Furtado, Justin Timberlake, 50 Cent etc. but i consider this the first classic of 2007. The music Timbaland makes is really different then everything else coming out.None of that. Timbaland is riding on top of a wave, and he's taking it to the max, that's for sure. But how is this "really different" from anything else coming out these days? Dre makes identical beats, and this whole style is simply an evolution of the sound of popular rap music. When I first heard the album, my initial response wasSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN
I know many dislike this album cause it features Nelly Furtado, Justin Timberlake, 50 Cent etc. but i consider this the first classic of 2007. The music Timbaland makes is really different then everything else coming out.
Quote from: Je Weet Zelf on April 09, 2007, 10:50:16 AMI guess you base that purely on the lyrical content?I agree with you, you shouldnt listen to this album for lyrical content, but i see it as a way to showcase the versatile talents of Timbaland as a producer.So how is this going to be a classic if it's nowhere near optimized as art? You just said that...
I guess you base that purely on the lyrical content?I agree with you, you shouldnt listen to this album for lyrical content, but i see it as a way to showcase the versatile talents of Timbaland as a producer.
Quote from: reefer alston on April 09, 2007, 01:28:07 PMMan, I didn't listen to this that much, but he seems to have tried too hard to make this album a "diamond". Now, his mind was in the right place, and the music was a good idea, it just seemed very contrived to me if that makes any sense. These tracks would be good on the radio as separete singles, but too fill a whole album with them is not my taste.I agree with most of that! It seems Timbaland thought he had found a hit formula so he'd milk it, but the outcome is rather unsatisfying to me.
Man, I didn't listen to this that much, but he seems to have tried too hard to make this album a "diamond". Now, his mind was in the right place, and the music was a good idea, it just seemed very contrived to me if that makes any sense. These tracks would be good on the radio as separete singles, but too fill a whole album with them is not my taste.
Quote from: Timbo the king on April 09, 2007, 12:38:50 PManyone who expected some raw hip hop or some lyrically content is an idiot.Didn't you say it were better for Timbaland to have Jay-Z on the album instead of Sebastian, because that would improve the lyrics? And why should Timbaland not drop any "raw hip hop"? He has done it before, his albums always used to be banging or smooth - they always appealed to the hiphop listener. Shock Value is... Different?
anyone who expected some raw hip hop or some lyrically content is an idiot.
Quote from: 11z Is Fuckin' Serious About This! on April 10, 2007, 01:18:34 PMQuote from: Je Weet Zelf on April 09, 2007, 10:20:15 AMI know many dislike this album cause it features Nelly Furtado, Justin Timberlake, 50 Cent etc. but i consider this the first classic of 2007. The music Timbaland makes is really different then everything else coming out.None of that. Timbaland is riding on top of a wave, and he's taking it to the max, that's for sure. But how is this "really different" from anything else coming out these days? Dre makes identical beats, and this whole style is simply an evolution of the sound of popular rap music. When I first heard the album, my initial response wasSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENPopular and rap music? That doesnt add up anymore. Popular rap nowadays is Akon. Lol. From my point of view, when i listen to Shock Value i dont hear anything played out, or anything thats overdone.
As a musical experience i'd say its one of the best albums coming out last years. But then again, thats my point of view, and who am i?
Quote from: 11z Is Fuckin' Serious About This! on April 10, 2007, 01:18:34 PMQuote from: reefer alston on April 09, 2007, 01:28:07 PMMan, I didn't listen to this that much, but he seems to have tried too hard to make this album a "diamond". Now, his mind was in the right place, and the music was a good idea, it just seemed very contrived to me if that makes any sense. These tracks would be good on the radio as separete singles, but too fill a whole album with them is not my taste.I agree with most of that! It seems Timbaland thought he had found a hit formula so he'd milk it, but the outcome is rather unsatisfying to me.If it was such a big hit formula he would have gone plat by now. Since if that was the case everyone in the mainstream would bump it by now, they dont though, so how can he have found a succesformula when he aint sold shit?Again the discussion wether you should value albums on quantity or quality arises, and in my opinion its about the quality and sales should be left out completely. He produced Justin Timberlake's and Nelly Furtado's albums last year, but did that make him hit or find a succesformula?If that was the case both artists would be all over Shock Value while Justin Timberlake is on 3 songs of the 17 while Nelly Furtado is even on just 1. I dont think he tried to make a "succesformula" just a album with different sounds and genres, to show the public he can do r&b, rap and rock-like songs.
Timbaland's albums in the past werent really "raw" and "lyrical" as well, but ever since he hit some gold last year with some pop/r&b albums people go hate on the kid and say he fell off or is not trying to make rap, just pop. Just like what happened with 50 Cent.
I dont get it, indian flute features Magoo, who is featured on Shock Value as well, he isnt really changed much with guests and all.
But now he makes pop and back in the "good old days" it was rap? Thats hipocrit to say imo.
He just makes music the way he wants it, wether you like it or not is irrelevant
i can only say im happy at least 1 producer is doing his own thing and not copying others.
But like i said, i love all the opinions and replies (no homo) cuz it shows what you like about it and dont like about it. +1 to everyone in this thread.
timbo should have saved his best beats for that album. if he had kept his best beats from the past 4-5 years instead of given them out, he would have had a much better album.
I don't dislike it cus of the features, I dislike it because it sucks.
Again, it's not because of the features, it's a pop album because it's an album filled with pop music.
Quote from: Je Weet Zelf on April 09, 2007, 10:20:15 AMI know many dislike this album cause it features Nelly Furtado, Justin Timberlake, 50 Cent etc. but i consider this the first classic of 2007. The music Timbaland makes is really different then everything else coming out.None of that. Timbaland is riding on top of a wave, and he's taking it to the max, that's for sure. But how is this "really different" from anything else coming out these days? Dre makes identical beats, and this whole style is simply an evolution of the sound of popular rap music. When I first heard the album, my initial response wasSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENDude, you really think Dre has even attempted to make a song like Apologize or Time? No way. Those tracks are unlike anything heard from a hiphop producer. While the entire album is not groundbreaking, to say that others are doing shit like this is true.The more i listen to this album, the more i am impressed. While i could do without horrible songs like Bounce and a couple of others, i am actually really feeling songs on the album. Nice album, the only problem is it doesn't really please fans of only one genre; for me, i am loving this shit because it isn't just hip hop. My favourite songs:Time (to me this is by far the best song on the album)Apologize (my second favourite, and i have never heard that type of singing over this type of track..wierd song but grew on me)2 man Show (for all you homophobic losers who put NO HOMO after everything you say, you don't have to worry because Elton John does NOT sing on the track, only plays some dope ass piano)The Way I Are (TIGHT beat, even if it is on some dance shit.......and I've been feeling DOE since Rollin......)Kill Yourself (probably the best hiphop track on the album, beat is SICK, rapping is obviously average but fits the song)I still can't believe heads actually expected a straight hiphop album. Face it, TImbaland is better at pop/r&b than hiphop, at least right now.For those who don't see what's original about this album, i kinda feel you because alot of it is club music, and also because the market is saturated with Timbaland music right now. But really, of all mainstream producers, TImbaland does have the most unique sound, its just overplayed. I haven't alwayss liked his shit over the years, but i don't know how you can't respect his creativity. Check Time Apologize, and tell me that isn't some different shit.......