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Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
J @ M @ L:
--- Quote from: Shakur Abdul-Latif's Definition Of Hip-Hop..by -Infinite- on April 10, 2007, 07:22:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on April 10, 2007, 10:56:30 AM ---
The reason is because even though American/Zionist agents play a role, they're not to be blamed entirely... they may be responsible for escalating this shit, or even providing the spark... but it's not their fault that those Muslims are too dumb to realize they're fucking themselves. They're not forcing the Muslims into their actions... they're fucking with their heads and taking advantage of the fact that those Muslims will jump and retaliate (against the wrong group)
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Your too dumb to realize that they are fucking with you, because your having the same problem that you are accusing them of having.
Let me explain, America wants the world to believe that there is a big problem of sectarian violence in Iraq, and under this context they can make themselves look like the good guys trying to bring peace to the warring factions. Since you, also believe that the Iraqi's have a problem of sectarian violence and you are promoting that by talking about it which makes you a tool in their propaganda.
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You said in your post:
"In reality it's American and Isreali intelligence that have created the civil war (planting bombs, planting evidence, through the media they control) in the region and exzaggerated it, partly (it has many purposes I'm just listing one here) because it makes civil war the national debate rather than U.S. casualties and failures in the region."
Now aside from the fact that you can't spell, I pretty much said the same shit you did. You, however, in other parts of your post tried to shift the blame in its entirety while I still portrayed some common sense and agreed that yes these agents are playing the whole divide and conquer game, but that in order to play that game they have to be able to take advantage of the situation there... meaning that, the agents are setting up the traps and the Muslims are falling for them... if you're too fucking blind to see that, look back at the statements made by the various religious leaders who kept telling their people not to fall for the bullshit and stick together against the foreign occupation... I know this may come as a shock to you, but the reason they made such statements is because they were witnessing SECTARIAN VIOLENCE... yes, the violence has definitely been sparked or escalated by foreign agents, but that doesn't mean that there is no sectarian violence.
On a sidenote, just so you don't draw attention to your own stupidity and all the dumb remarks you make, you should really think twice about calling anyone dumb, especially me, you confused dipshit.
virtuoso:
On the contrary I am acknowledging that this is multi faceted of course there is zionist involvement there is also catholic and christian involvement if you really feel the need to boil this down to religion. If you look at what I just said, I said you want to paint this in black and white, that it's the jews doing everything, this simplistic view point is nonsense. Of course in terms of mossad. they are involved and I have already acknowledged the media spin put on this, but it's much deeper than just jews. You stead fastly refuse to see that some muslims can also sell themselves out also, you don't want to see that in part this is coming from genuine anger, don't go and paint Iraq as some kind of utopia. The fact is there were simmering tensions before what the intelligence terrorist attacks. What this has has done however is allow for those tensions to be brought to the boil the catalysing effect that blows the top off. I am simply pointing out to you that this involves many more groups than you seem to think and also that though yes some of the chaos has been created through false flag terrorism, some of it has also been caused by the destruction of the institutions which has then spilled over into violence. I remember not so long ago you were marveling at what a great president clinton was and yet look at the evils that the U.N imposed sanctions caused to the Iraqis. It seems like you only want to see what suits your view point and that to me is deeply frustrating.
The final point I made was to not be insulting, but it is true muslims are falling for the traps and they keep running their mouths which is in turn leading to the wrong impression ahd thus a hardening of feeling towards muslims. Which is why at least to a degree there is still a lot of apathy when they mention Iran as the next target. I am not denying or trying to play down the oppression that arab muslims have received, heck arabs in general not just muslims but it's all too easy to set the arabs off which unfortunately makes them a soft and easy target.
*Z* - The Queen of Dubcc:
--- Quote from: Shakur Abdul-Latif's Definition Of Hip-Hop..by -Infinite- on April 10, 2007, 07:13:29 PM ---
--- Quote from: virtuoso on April 10, 2007, 10:57:41 AM ---No infinite this is where we greatly disagree, you want to try and simplify things into jews jews jews, this is a sustained effort by many parties. Also you don't want to acknowedge there is evil within the muslim world also, this is a great naivety and blindness much akin to the zombie like world of these brain dead salivating neocons. Furthermore you are deeply reluctant to consider that some of these muslims are themselves possible tools. It's about time muslims started shutting their mouths also and think about the beartraps they are being led into.
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The things I say at this forum are true, why don't you go try and quote something I said that is false, then we will talk, until then, don't waste my time if you can't think of anything better to say towards me than the Bush/Blair supporters at the forum.
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you might have not mentioned it directly on this topic, but it is pretty much known that you have some twisted perceptions, when you claimed that muslims are the "best people" in the world
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=122010.0
--- Quote from: Shakur Abdul-Latif's Definition Of Hip-Hop..by -Infinite- on January 09, 2007, 09:56:25 AM ---
Also, my message was to Muslims. Because gaining a firm faith of the hereafter is not something that comes easy, or to a person outside of belief in Allah. It is developed through intense and consistent worship, sacrifice, contemplation, fasting, prayer, reading of Qu'ran, etc.
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http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=131599.25
--- Quote from: Shakur Abdul-Latif's Definition Of Hip-Hop..by -Infinite- on January 09, 2007, 09:56:25 AM ---thanks man........ it's cool out here, the people aren't suspicious of eachother in the way American's hold eachother in suspicion. Islam unites the people, and people meet and become friends easily.
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cigarettes also unite people
or the topic: "Muslims: we shouldnt say anything bad about muslims" (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=121011.0)
or when you claimed that jews are rightfully the most hated people by posting some bullshit of quotes:
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=136470.0
you can read what seer said about it, i dont have anything to add...
--- Quote from: Seer - San on February 23, 2007, 01:22:40 PM ---if this post was about george washington.. then why are there all those other quotes too.. just to put the knife in? you never even added anything. you just copied and pasted a bunch of random anti jew shit.. and thats it.. not even any input from yourself
i guess it was "bash the jew day" at the mosque that got you fired up? toy soldier?
keep up this bigotry infinite and you'll be banned. for good this time.
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fuck it..
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btw i felt sorry for you after your cd's got jacked.. and i thought you were calming down.. after this.. now i think its karma. i've never actually been more disgusted by a single person in my life ever.
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enjoy
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on April 10, 2007, 07:42:51 PM ---
On a sidenote, just so you don't draw attention to your own stupidity and all the dumb remarks you make, you should really think twice about calling anyone dumb, especially me, you confused dipshit.
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Jamal, everything you quoted me as saying, you agreed with. Yet, somehow you managed to go on and call me a confused dipshit and so on. If there is a statement I have said that is false, then why don't you quote that statement. Otherwise, it's just a waste of time for me to continue with you. I'm not here to talk shit and satisfy my ego. Not to mention, we just make Muslims look stupid if we argue and you call me a confused dipshit. I know you don't see yourself as a Muslim (just nominally Muslim), but people like CWalker do and are aware of it.
*Z* - The Queen of Dubcc:
^^lol back to the topic: "Muslims: we shouldnt say anything bad about muslims" (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=121011.0)
you retarded piece of shit, you should already have some balls and reply to what i said or at least to overseers post on your own topic. you are full of bullshit and when someone makes you face it, you disregard it, you fucking coward!
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