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Quote from: Xander. on April 23, 2007, 11:49:47 AMI rather hear Dre work with westcoast cats while still makin' new, fresh, groundbreakin' music. That could really bring the West back again, everyone will relate the West to that new music-style (whatever it might be) but that's probably never happening like Michael Jackson turnin' black again.I know Detox (if it ever drops) is gonna be dope, i just hope it introduces a new sound to the game, cause change won't really be a bad thing with everyone rappin' about the same ol' thing and producing the same old beats.However, how much protential for making "fresh, groundbreaking" music does the west coast really have these days? I wouldn't know - I haven't seen the potential. And how are you expecting a Dr. Dre album to make a change about "everyone rappin' about the same ol' thing"?
I rather hear Dre work with westcoast cats while still makin' new, fresh, groundbreakin' music. That could really bring the West back again, everyone will relate the West to that new music-style (whatever it might be) but that's probably never happening like Michael Jackson turnin' black again.I know Detox (if it ever drops) is gonna be dope, i just hope it introduces a new sound to the game, cause change won't really be a bad thing with everyone rappin' about the same ol' thing and producing the same old beats.
Quote from: Xander. on April 23, 2007, 12:00:53 PMHaha, i can imagine that. I'm still hopin' it wil ldroop, gotta keep faith in the rappers huh, just like Crooked, still hopin' he will finally drop his debut (after 7 years ) this year as well. I'm always in for some quality music.Besides that, i'm curious too about what way Eminem is goin' for his new (and possible last) album. On the Re-Up it felt like he was kinda testing different styles (for example compare Jimmy Crack Corn with No Apologies, which are both dope songs by the way) i'm wondering what he will come up with for his next album.True, I lost my faith in Crook a while ago though lol. Can't disagree with being open to quality music.I thought the Re-Up was a step in best direction for Em. I like that you mentioned Jimmy Crack Corn and No Apologies because they are both great songs, but so different. He really had some great lines on this album, which he didn't do on the Encore. His voice still sounded a bit strange, especially on the 2nd track, but don't mind it as much as long as he's not talking stupid shit. Jimmy Crack Corn was kinda silly, but Em was flipping some serious verbal gymnastics on that. His flow is nuts, and I'm hoping he uses that formula on the next album, instead of making a super silly record again.
Haha, i can imagine that. I'm still hopin' it wil ldroop, gotta keep faith in the rappers huh, just like Crooked, still hopin' he will finally drop his debut (after 7 years ) this year as well. I'm always in for some quality music.Besides that, i'm curious too about what way Eminem is goin' for his new (and possible last) album. On the Re-Up it felt like he was kinda testing different styles (for example compare Jimmy Crack Corn with No Apologies, which are both dope songs by the way) i'm wondering what he will come up with for his next album.
Dr. Dre set the standards for new (popular, mainstream as well as underground) music with the release of his first 2 albums. Back in '92 he introduced G-Funk to the world, which brought a whole new sound to hiphop (listen to some 80's records for example and notice the difference) and got mad spins on the radio, many producers and rappers based their style on that whole gangstarap genre over G-Funk beats.
In 1999 with the release of Dre's 2001, he made a new sound, which got heavily used by many other cats as well (for example listen to Southern records around 2000) got developped by others, but Dre did set the standard for a lot of new, fresh material back in 1999. As far as rappin' goes with Dre, since most of his lyrics is ghostwritten anyways, it wasn't anything new.
What i see nowadays is a game which is stagnated, it doesn't move on anymore but sticks to same old scripts and formula's, just to get money. Nobody is darin' to take any risk of making something new, and those who do get no exposure at all. My hopes are aimed at Dre, maybe he can come up with anything new and fresh that at least gets some others to make something new too (wether it's based on Dre's album or not, i don't care, anything better then right now).
Maybe it's 2pac's first appearance after faking his death in 96'.
The fact that all of his lyrics after EVIL4ZAGGIN have been ghost written has little to do with the question whether they're innovative or not, but I assume that means you never meant to say you were expecting innovative lyrics from Dre after all, or were you?wait he wrote on EFIL4ZAGGIN? i thought ren or somebody wrote his shit on that for him.i dont trust em until he ADMITS encore was a failure...
11z im gettin' tired of you breaking down everyone's posts into parts and try to counter everything they say. You didn't like gangstarap anymore you said before, so why do you even respond on a thread about Dre, stay of my nuts fool.If you don't like gangstarap anymore fuck off, but stay outta my way, thanx.Dre changed the game with the chronic, period. Dre introduced a fresh sound with 2001, and made it popular, period.And whatever you say about it, i don't care, i know i am right about this. Now go jack yourself of or something (no homo).
You didn't asked me a question, you broke my post down in pieces and have to whine about every little part of it
However, how much protential for making "fresh, groundbreaking" music does the west coast really have these days? I wouldn't know - I haven't seen the potential. And how are you expecting a Dr. Dre album to make a change about "everyone rappin' about the same ol' thing"?
I don't see what you have to whine about since you're so developped and intelligent that you gave up on "gangstarap". Why are you here if you don't like it anymore?
I don't think i have to say anything else, pathetic little kid. It's cool if you don't like my opinion or whatever, but just ingore it then, you only make a fool of yourself.
You always have to comment on what others say and make huge megaposts about what is wrong about someone else's opinion and arguments, fuck you for not respecting anyone's opinion and cry like a little baby.
My name ain't a dick so keep it out your mouth, thanx.
Hahaha, you funny man. Goin' all crazy over some internetbullshit.
11z im gettin' tired of you breaking down everyone's posts into parts and try to counter everything they say. You didn't like gangstarap anymore you said before, so why do you even respond on a thread about Dre, stay of my nuts fool.If you don't like gangstarap anymore fuck off, but stay outta my way, thanx.And whatever you say about it, i don't care, i know i am right about this. Now go jack yourself of or something (no homo).
Lol. You do realize that the fact you don't like gangstarap anymore and still speaking on those subjects and hangin' around here, makes you a fool, don't you?
I don't care how "academic" you are, just leave me be, i don't feel any need to go into endless internet discussions about my wrong spelling/grammar or my opinion on music/gangstarap with you. For me, internet is fun, and there's no fun in dissing you over and over again. The only thing you can seem to come up with is chidlish stuff like "Take that mirror away from your face, you might break it." Kids in 2nd grade don't even say that shit anymore.
And no, i'm not down with Nik in any way, that jewbag is not even worth my attention, just like you. So this is my last post on this subject, do yourself a favor and leave me alone, you ain't gonna get anything out of it anyways.
imagine if the secret guest on detox is SUGE KNIGHT lmfao