Booker.T theme... please help

[Sikotic™]

I know he messed up his knee in his last match with RVD but even before that he hasn't been used right. I hope they push him when he gets back because he has so much potential.

And I know The Rock, Austin and Kurt Angle put on great matches for the storyline, but for me personally I get bored very quickly watching their matches. They need HHH and Benoit back badly but since they won't be back for a little while they need to put Jericho in more main events. He put on a hell of a performance in the triple threat between him, Benoit and Austin and then a few months later he is fighting for the hardcore title. I wish he would turn heel and take on Angle.

[HBKid_Jr]

HHH in ring wise an mic skill wise is great but is not on HBK's level,  tha rock,  great mic skills,  proberly better than HBK's but HBK is up there though watch tha stuff from tha OG DX an you'll see some of tha funniest shit ever,  in ring wise,  tha rock is nowhere near HBK,  tha rock averages 20-35 right hands a match,  SCSA,  overated in my opinion.  Chris Benoit,  about as charasmatic a board.  An to stay HBK had less great matches aint tru.  HBK had a lot less to work wit back in tha day.  Also tell me one other wrestler that could carry sid visious to a good match.

[Don Jacob]

all time favorite wrestler:


THE UNDERTAKER!

[SugeFight]

HHH worked Undertaker to a nearly 4 star match at Wrestlemania.  That is freaking incredible.

[HBKid_Jr]

Shawn wrestled Undertaker to 2 5/5 matches an a 4.5/5 match,  giving that was 3 years ago,  undertaker was a lil younger but in ring undertaker was never that great

[SugeFight]

HHH worked a near 4 star match with the Undertaker   in a NON GIMMICK MATCH (ex. Hell in the Cell, No DQ, etc.)

[HBKid_Jr]

When was tha last time in a major match has tha wwf had a NON- Gimmick match,  when was tha last time they have a had a count out ora DQ in a big WWF match,  an tha match at In your House Bad Blood match was non gimmick,

[eNgIeS]

Booker T is a good worker & has started settling into the WWF now after a crap first month.

Him & his brother Stevie Ray had that music since 1994, Stevie Ray was never a good worker though, but certainly not the worst.

HHH worked Undertaker to a nearly 4 star match at Wrestlemania.  That is freaking incredible.

HHH is good worker, but give Undertaker some credit, he worked almost like the old Undertaker during that match. You cant just give credit to one guy for a match being good, IT TAKES TWO TO TANGLE.

That match was 4 star IMO

JakeDogg, you must be a mark for big men who do 7 moves

Shawn wrestled Undertaker to 2 5/5 matches an a 4.5/5 match,  giving that was 3 years ago,  undertaker was a lil younger but in ring undertaker was never that great

Man, he worked him to one 5 star match (Hell In A Cell) & two 4 star matches (Ground Zero one was good but the ending was crap & Rumble well was good as well until the ending).

As I said about, give credit where it is due, Taker worked the matches as well, though he looked good because he had Shawn Michaels to throw around. HBK's bumping, selling & timming is probably the best ever, X-Pac is also great in those catergories too.

[SugeFight]

The first match in the HBK/UT series was a good match but was a DQ ending and was mostly brawling.
HBK/UT Bad Blood was a hell in the cell match.
HBK/UT Royal Rumble was a casket match. (Also the match that ended HBK's career).


HHH/UT at Wrestlemania 17 was a straight up wrestling match.

--By the way, this wrestling talk is good.  We should start a weekly thread in the non music section.

[Don Jacob]

JakeDogg, you must be a mark for big men who do 7 moves

i guess i dunno, really when i watch wrestling i don't care if a wrestler can do a billion moves or not i'm more for the  hard nose striaght up tough guys ya know what i'm saying, the only little dudes i really ever liked were

shawn michaels (fuck what JR says about SCSA being the best wwf champ ...that belongs to shawn michaels or brett hart)

Brett Hart- in his prime i don't think anyone could touch him on his level cept for Shawn Michaels or Undertaker

i think that's about it...i use to like x-pac when he was the 1.2.3 kid, i dunno he seemed alot tougher back then and seemed more into it back then


but other than that i've been into the big guys really my whole life...but i don't just like any one who's 300 lbs and 7 feet...i could give a damn bout the big show really (his size is admirable) but really he doesn't seem that motivated

But i wouldn't say undertaker is some big dumb unathletic big guy who only knows 6 moves....he's ANY thing but that, his recent matches havn't been much but he's also a VERY worn down aged wrestler right now ...but is trucking along still really good, i admire how Taker is one of the hugest guys out there but at the same time one of the most agile. i also admire how he use to sell his whole "dead guy" thing where he'd get hit HARD then just raise up like it didn't even phase him....that's DIFFICULT to pull off night after night, i don't know in my opinion Undertaker is up there with the best of all time , not THE best but just my personal favorite

but basically when i see guys like RVD i'm not really all that impressed (he impresses me with his creativity) but it's not like all those moves are made up spur of the moment they coreograph those moves MILLIONS of times before show time, RVD is good at what he does and i respect how good he does it, but i just never been a fan for flashy moves and flips and all that...just straight TOUGH dudes like: Bradshaw.....does Bradshaw's character suck and use like 3 moves YES, but i still love his brute toughness...i dunno it's hard to explain what i watch for in wrestling , i guess just look at mick foley and that pretty much sums up what i like

[Sikotic™]

tha rock averages 20-35 right hands a match

Thats what I mean when I say main eventers like the Rock bore me. His athleticism is amazing but he chooses not to use it so he could save his body for the movie industry, a career path he is bound to take. I'm not hating on him for playing it safe but their is a difference between being more cautious and being plain lazy. Its like the most you get out of The Rock is a Rock Bottom through the table. That pisses me off because I have been a fan of his since he debuted in the federation as Rocky Maivia. I miss those great matches when he was a heel but  too bad we will never see those again.

SCSA,  overated in my opinion.

I don't think he is overrated. His first championship reign was great and it was filled with lots of emotion, one of the top 5 next to HBK, Brett Hart, Hogan etc. Hell he pulled off what in my opinion is one of the greatest story lines of all time (McMahon vs. Austin). He had many great memorable matches during that time. I respect him for slowing down since he messed up his neck so badly. The only thing about him that I can't stand is his character. It has been ravished beyond recognition. He used to be that evil mean son of a bitch and was reduced to a pathetic man hugging men and crying on TV.

Chris Benoit,  about as charasmatic a board.  

Well he never had charisma when it came to mic skills but its aiight since his character doesn't require much of it. In the ring, which is most important, he has lots of charisma, its just his style differs from other charismatic wrestlers like HBK. Man I can't wait til he gets back either. I think his PPV match against HHH was one of the best non-gimmick matches of the year last year.

[eNgIeS]

i guess i dunno, really when i watch wrestling i don't care if a wrestler can do a billion moves or not i'm more for the  hard nose striaght up tough guys ya know what i'm saying, the only little dudes i really ever liked were

shawn michaels (fuck what JR says about SCSA being the best wwf champ ...that belongs to shawn michaels or brett hart)

Brett Hart- in his prime i don't think anyone could touch him on his level cept for Shawn Michaels or Undertaker

i think that's about it...i use to like x-pac when he was the 1.2.3 kid, i dunno he seemed alot tougher back then and seemed more into it back then


but other than that i've been into the big guys really my whole life...but i don't just like any one who's 300 lbs and 7 feet...i could give a damn bout the big show really (his size is admirable) but really he doesn't seem that motivated

But i wouldn't say undertaker is some big dumb unathletic big guy who only knows 6 moves....he's ANY thing but that, his recent matches havn't been much but he's also a VERY worn down aged wrestler right now ...but is trucking along still really good, i admire how Taker is one of the hugest guys out there but at the same time one of the most agile. i also admire how he use to sell his whole "dead guy" thing where he'd get hit HARD then just raise up like it didn't even phase him....that's DIFFICULT to pull off night after night, i don't know in my opinion Undertaker is up there with the best of all time , not THE best but just my personal favorite

but basically when i see guys like RVD i'm not really all that impressed (he impresses me with his creativity) but it's not like all those moves are made up spur of the moment they coreograph those moves MILLIONS of times before show time, RVD is good at what he does and i respect how good he does it, but i just never been a fan for flashy moves and flips and all that...just straight TOUGH dudes like: Bradshaw.....does Bradshaw's character suck and use like 3 moves YES, but i still love his brute toughness...i dunno it's hard to explain what i watch for in wrestling , i guess just look at mick foley and that pretty much sums up what i like

I feel you, I do like big guys too, unlike other smart fans I respect every wrestler except a few who dont deserve it (Buff & Luger for example).

Bradshaw is awesome & I wish he would get the push he has been promised.

Peace

[oUtLaW]

lol. A whole wrestling discussion is going on a hiphop board.
hey i was just wondering how the hell did big poppa pump made his bieceps soo big i havn't seen any otha man with biceps popping out of the arm like dat.

[Don Jacob]

:: smacks vein on arm::


i ain't saying he does roid up but it looks like it, but it IS possible to have biceps like that my friend brian's are like that , and like all he eats is ceasar salads and water and does alot of reps...it's achievable but you gotta be dedicated to it


and i like what sikotik had to say about the rock...i ain't hating but he's too delicate lately i remember when he first came out and was with the Nation he was OOBER now he's seems soft and predictable...but like you said his Movie Career is OBVIOUSLY going to sky rocket...the same thing happened to Hogan also, when he was shooting Mr. nanny most of his matches back then were like 5 minuties against some generic wrestler  where he'd hit them twice and do the leg drop and go back to the back stage


anyways who do y'all think should be pushed more?

[DreSnoop00]

as popular as RVD is... he could go on even farther.. hes really tight to me.. also chris benoit when he comes back.. i really like him too