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Mom, I'm An Atheist...
7even:
You see a conspiracy in everything, yet would never stop cherishing the gospel, then call me close-minded.
Damn, that's special, maybe you could make money with that.
Give me one thing in the gospel that stands up against my atheistic views and I'll denounce my atheism.
By your definition it is illogical to call atheists more narrowminded than religious people. Also, being too open-minded will cause your brain to fall out.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: 7even on April 12, 2007, 09:23:53 AM ---You see a conspiracy in everything, yet would never stop cherishing the gospel, then call me close-minded.
Damn, that's special, maybe you could make money with that.
Give me one thing in the gospel that stands up against my atheistic views and I'll denounce my atheism.
By your definition it is illogical to call atheists more narrowminded than religious people. Also, being too open-minded will cause your brain to fall out.
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I see conspiracy in the Church every day, but I also see that the church goes so far against the gospel to commit questionable acts. Why couldn't they just change the script to suit their motives?
Make money with what? I said you might be close minded. Maybe you're agnostic. I don't know what's in your head. Like I said, I'd have no problem with my life or life choices if I found out tomorrow that the Gospel was allegorical. That being said anyone that disagrees with the supposed allegory is a bad person who needs improvement.
The gospel is a written text that you can read for yourself. If you were accept my challenge you could read it and figure out what you think may be wrong with regards to today's morality. How can I accept your challenge? How can I get a copy of "7even's Athiestic Manifesto"?
I never called athiests "more" narrowminded than religious people, and my brains been safely tucked in my head for years now and I don't think I can get any more open minded. But just like you cannot know for sure there is God, you cannot know for sure that there isn't God, and anyone that thinks they know for sure is a closed minded fool.
7even:
Maybe I was wrong, but I thought that most deeply religious people have no doubts in the existance of God in their respective theistic religion. That would make them just as close-minded as someone who has no doubt in the inexistance of God. Case closed. Morals, appropriate behaviour, being a good person, whatever the fuck you wanna call it is nothing an atheist naturally lacks compared to a religious human being. Also, the bible has got some dope little stories n shit, nice book overall, me being an atheist doesn't mean I regard everything that is affiliated with a religion as trash, far from that.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: 7even on April 12, 2007, 09:52:02 AM ---Maybe I was wrong, but I thought that most deeply religious people have no doubts in the existance of God in their respective theistic religion. That would make them just as close-minded as someone who has no doubt in the inexistance of God. Case closed. Morals, appropriate behaviour, being a good person, whatever the fuck you wanna call it is nothing an atheist naturally lacks compared to a religious human being. Also, the bible has got some dope little stories n shit, nice book overall, me being an atheist doesn't mean I regard everything that is affiliated with a religion as trash, far from that.
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It's called faith for a reason. There is no room for certainty in faith. Once you are certain, it is no longer faith. Anyone that is religious and claims to know God exists is just narrowminded as an athiest and I've said that three times now. How is it that you have to keep bringing it up? I never said an athiest lacks morality because he's an athiest, or that a person needs a religion to have morals so I don't know wherer that came from either. I said that anyone that reads the Gospels, (the 4 books describing what Jesus said, not the books Moses wrote, or the letters Paul wrote, but the Gospels), whether they read it as historical documentation or a fictional story, and disagrees with the morals of those books, is a bad person. That's just something I brought up.
7even:
Ok, cool... I just don't buy your stance on certain things. You just know how argueable they are, so you're smart enough to make some p.c. comments here and there. I just think that ultimately, if this video showed a kid claiming that Jesus was born on Christmas or something, and the mother had been like "fuck outta here, the whole purpose of christmas is to push consumerism and people into buying stuff they don't need, dumb fuck", you wouldn't even have thought about "Oh, this kid is so rebellious towards his parents... must be a phase, being in puberty and all"... feeeeeel me? Now you can of course come back with a well-structured argument about this and that, but at the end of the day I will still regard you as someone less tolerant and more over-the-top than you would admit.
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